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Zeromus_X
10-07-2005, 02:09 AM
just thought of a few things about the pluto knights you may not or mayve known. :p

there are 9 pluto knights, correct? and its final fantasy 9. and the 9th planet in the solar system is pluto. nyuk nyuk nyuk...

plus, on disc four, if you see pluto knight the 7th, hes talking to a flower girl.
(flower girl=aerith=final fantasy 7-and hes pluto knight 7.)

maybe the pluto knights are representatives of their numbered ffs? just speculation, but the above things are kinda funny. :D

ShadowHeart
10-07-2005, 05:07 AM
Lol, I never actually thought about the Pluto reference.. :p

Totorosama
10-10-2005, 01:37 AM
Absolutely fascinating. They should make a symbolism thread in the FFIX section, including the "Loss of ME" thread. Also, Baku and Alexandria are real places in real life. That, and Tantalus comes from the word "tantalize," which means "wanting to cause trouble" or something. I think there's more that I found out, but I don't exactly remember, I'll go look...

Coelie
10-15-2005, 07:09 AM
jesus Zero dont you got better things on ur mind :p altough I must you there is a word of truth in that what ur saying :o

gcarev10
10-16-2005, 02:25 PM
they are stupid.

Xartex
10-16-2005, 07:45 PM
never gave that sort of things any thought, but that is just... i don't know what to say

Arkacia
10-17-2005, 12:24 AM
Absolutely fascinating. They should make a symbolism thread in the FFIX section, including the "Loss of ME" thread. Also, Baku and Alexandria are real places in real life. That, and Tantalus comes from the word "tantalize," which means "wanting to cause trouble" or something. I think there's more that I found out, but I don't exactly remember, I'll go look...

Actually Tantalus is a character from Greek mythology and the word tantalize comes from the punishment he received when he upset the Gods. Read This Link (http://www.pantheon.org/articles/t/tantalus.html) and you will see what I mean :).

There is a variation on the spelling of the word tantalize. Its tantalise, which has a totally different meaning.

Zeromus_X
10-17-2005, 12:26 AM
oh yeah...that guy...he was there along with the guy pushing the rock up the hill forever, right? (sisyphus, or something?) those greek gods need to take anger management, or something... :rolleyes:

Totorosama
10-24-2005, 06:44 PM
they are stupid.
Who?
never gave that sort of things any thought, but that is just... i don't know what to say
There is a variation on the spelling of the word tantalize. Its tantalise, which has a totally different meaning.
What does tantalise mean? Also, how do you get so much gil with only the number of posts you have? The math doesn't work out.
oh yeah...that guy...he was there along with the guy pushing the rock up the hill forever, right? (sisyphus, or something?) those greek gods need to take anger management, or something...
I sense a thread split...

Max the Man
10-24-2005, 10:48 PM
wow I never noticed that... sounds interesting. I think it's odd that all the Pluto Knights have German names, since Alexandria was a Greek city.

Arkacia
10-24-2005, 11:51 PM
What does tantalise mean? Also, how do you get so much gil with only the number of posts you have? The math doesn't work out.

I sense a thread split...

If you take a little look under my username, you will see my job title is administrator. I am the one setting up the RPG and have access to all parts of it, including editing members gil counts. I have edited my own to use for testing of weapons, armour ect because I have to buy them before I can use them in the monster arena :).

I don't battle other members and despite a very nice invitation haven't joined any clans. My gil count is one of the reasons that would be full on cheating and just plain not fair ;).

No thread split at the moment, but we should all get back on topic now.

Oh, I nearly forgot, tantalise means....



tantalise

v : harass with persistent criticism or carping; "The children teased the new teacher"; "Don't ride me so hard over my failure"; "His fellow workers razzed him when he wore a jacket and tie".

~Hidan~
10-25-2005, 04:35 AM
Thats umm well, damn, umm never thought about it...

Totorosama
10-25-2005, 06:26 PM
Thanks, Arkacia.

gcarev10
11-09-2005, 07:15 PM
tantalus is a greek mitologi person who is rebel and punish by gods and his punishment is crucifixion on the kavkas mauntian and big eagle comes and eat his flesh when he is still alive. Whay he is punish because he give sicrets of gods to a human. It is in my people known words tantalst trouble so that is that. I hope thats is help for you.

mercenary
11-14-2005, 04:12 AM
Absolutely fascinating. They should make a symbolism thread in the FFIX section, including the "Loss of ME" thread. Also, Baku and Alexandria are real places in real life. That, and Tantalus comes from the word "tantalize," which means "wanting to cause trouble" or something. I think there's more that I found out, but I don't exactly remember, I'll go look...
tantalus is also a real gang of thieves aswell read a history book :)

Arkacia
11-14-2005, 05:11 AM
tantalus is a greek mitologi person who is rebel and punish by gods and his punishment is crucifixion on the kavkas mauntian and big eagle comes and eat his flesh when he is still alive. Whay he is punish because he give sicrets of gods to a human. It is in my people known words tantalst trouble so that is that. I hope thats is help for you.

Umm, actually that was Prometheus, a titan (old God). The secret he gave humans was fire. Zeus wasn't happy and had him chained to the top of a mountain, where an eagle visited him each day and ate his liver.

Gumdrop
11-14-2005, 03:45 PM
just thought of a few things about the pluto knights you may not or mayve known. :p

there are 9 pluto knights, correct? and its final fantasy 9. and the 9th planet in the solar system is pluto. nyuk nyuk nyuk...

plus, on disc four, if you see pluto knight the 7th, hes talking to a flower girl.
(flower girl=aerith=final fantasy 7-and hes pluto knight 7.)

maybe the pluto knights are representatives of their numbered ffs? just speculation, but the above things are kinda funny. :D


0_o You could be right! You think too much..lol ;)

gcarev10
11-16-2005, 06:01 PM
Arkacia i agree whit you so i taypd this on google:
Greek mythology Tantalus and i found
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In Greek mythology Tantalus was son of Zeus and the nymph Pluto=Pluto knights (not to be confused with the god of underworld).Thus he was a king in the primordial world. He was associated with Phrygia or Mauntia Sipyus in Lydia both in Asia Minor. He became one of the inhabitants of Tartarus the deepest portion of the underworld, reservd for the punishment of evildoers. His children was Pelops, Niobe, Broteas, all three fathered on his wife Dione. Tantalus is know for having welcomed to Zeus table in Olympus. There he stole nectar and ambrosia, brought them back to his people, and revealed the secret of the gods. He also offerd up his son, Pelops as a sacrifice=(zidan limit) to the gods, an archetypal story of shamanic initation in which he cut Pelops up, Boiled him, and served him up as food foe the gods.
The gods were said to be aware of his plan for their feast, so they didnt touch the offering; only Demetar disturbed by the rape of her daughter Persephone did not realize what it was and ate of the boys shoulder. Fate,ordered by Zeus=(Mace of Zeus), brought the boy to life=(LIfe tree)again ( she collected the parts of the boy and boiled them in a secred couldron) rebuilding his shoulder whit one wrought of dolfin ivory, made Hephaestos and presented by Demeter.
Pelops, thus recinstituted, was brought back to life having gained new qualities. To reinforce the initiatory theme, the revived Pelops is kidnapped by POseidon and taken to Olympus to be gods lover.
The Greeks of the classical times claimed to be horrified by Tantalus doings and accused Tantalus of trying to trick the Olympian gods back into older indentities by offering them a sacrifice-banquet of human flesh.
The karnel of myth embodied in this tale reinforces Olympian gods supperssionof human sacrifice which had apparently been offeredin earlier times,especially to Demeter in her earlier embodiment as the Great Goddes, but which was now taboo. Alternatively , Tantalus is cast as a Promethea (i was confused whit that) figure who divulges divine secrets to mortals and presides over sacred initiations cinsisting of mystic death and transfiguration.
Tantalus punishment, now proverbial for temptation without satisfaction, was to stand in a pool of water beneath a fruit tree with low branches. Whenever he reached for the fruit, the branches raised his intended meal from his grasp. Whenever he bent down to get a drink, the water receded before he coud get any.
In separate story, he was also blamed for having stolen the dog of Hephaestus (god of metals)(alternatvely, he cinvinced his friend ,Pandora=(FF 7 Pandora Box) to do so)
Tantalus is the origin of the English word "tantalize"(I agree whit you)The idea being that when a person tantalizes someone eles, that person is making them like Tantalus: there is something desirable that is always just out of that persons reach (that sounds familiar to me).
A Tantalus , by an obvious analogy, is also tje term for a type of drinks decanter stand in which the bottle stoppers are firmly clamped down by a locked metal bar, as a means of preventing servants from stealing the masters liquor.(I am not alkoholic)
The cemical element tantalum (symbol Ta ,atomic number 73) is named for him.
AND NOW FOR YOU ALL

Tantalus is also later put in use in the hit role-playing game series or ( R P G ), Final Fantasy IX,in which a group of thieves called themselves Tantalus. In the opening Sequence in the game, they are responsible for putting on a ploy in order to capture the Princes of Alexandria.

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Totorosama
11-17-2005, 07:27 PM
Cool. You went to a lot of work, didn't you. I think that's the longest post (not including stories) I've ever seen. Also, more symoblism! I'm posting the stuff in the symbolism section. Do you think I should make a general symbolism thread, as I've found stuff for other FFs? Or maybe just make one for each FF?

gcarev10
11-27-2005, 12:57 PM
You go for each ff but you mast be sure that you take all symomlism in all FF for exp.
ff 8 all symbolism.
ff7 all symbolism.
on that way we know what is going on in squaresoft and where is all that material for ff storys ist that fan.Squaresoft is good in storys we all know that.

Totorosama
11-30-2005, 07:40 PM
Yeah. Thanks! Anyways, so Arkacia was right about Prometheus. We've been studying about Greek mythology lately. Also, Tantalus was the one in the underworld (Hades) that either can't get the food and drink or the one that has to keep rolling the stone up the hill.

gcarev10
12-13-2005, 04:30 PM
I agree with you toto, thanks Arkacia we have all clin on pluto knights
so how is going with that symbolism section .