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Phoenix Flame
12-04-2005, 09:13 AM
WARNING! POTENTIAL SPOILER AREA!

I really liked Avathar's idea about posting what ifs in games (in the FFIX forum.) So I wanted to duplicate that idea in this thread for FFVII. I have a good one to start us off with for this particular thread.

My idea is to have someone post a what if, then have the next person post what they think that change or "what if" would do to the storyline in the game.

What if, Seto (Nanaki's father) hadn't singlehandedly fought off the Gi tribe at the rear of Cosmo canyon?

gcarev10
12-04-2005, 11:29 AM
No Nanaki in the game and more job for Claud. Ha ha ha

Phoenix Flame
12-04-2005, 12:42 PM
What if, instead of Sephiroth being the last enemy, it was actually Jenova

Phoenix Flame
12-21-2005, 10:40 PM
Since I don't want this thread to die... I'll answer and repost.

I think if the above was true, and Jenova was the final boss the storyline would have been complete and A.C. would not be coming out...However I think that this makes more sense if you think about Cloud and Sephiroth both being pawns to Jenova's will. I don't know, brain hurts too much right now.

What if cait sith wasn't a main character?

Zeromus_X
12-22-2005, 12:08 AM
to comment on jenova: that kick ass! itd be a more "legendary" final battle, id like that more, but i obviously cant change it. :D

kitten sith! nooo! without kitten sith, they wouldnt find the keystone, the city of ancients, save tifa from dying (well, daimond helped a little), or get into midgar at the end of disc three! kitten sith is more important than people think. (and hes a kitty cat! yes he is!! :D)

Phoenix Flame
12-23-2005, 04:41 PM
to comment on jenova: that kick ass! itd be a more "legendary" final battle, id like that more, but i obviously cant change it. :D

kitten sith! nooo! without kitten sith, they wouldnt find the keystone, the city of ancients, save tifa from dying (well, daimond helped a little), or get into midgar at the end of disc three! kitten sith is more important than people think. (and hes a kitty cat! yes he is!! :D)


:D I knew you would be the one to answer that one Zeromus_X! You really like Cait Sith I've noticed. :)

Would you do us the honor of posting the next what if also...?

Zeromus_X
12-23-2005, 09:45 PM
oh! i didnt know it was like a post-game...um...hm...

what if ... um...well..

i cant really think of one :D

can someone else? ^^;;

Phoenix Flame
12-25-2005, 06:48 AM
Oh rasberries :p

can't ya try. Gotta keep this thread alive...


Please ;)

Zeromus_X
12-25-2005, 10:36 PM
oh. i thought that others might be interested in these things...well then...

what if... shinra never owned the gold saucer? (i cant think of anymore "what ifs..the jenova one is the most interesting.)

Arkacia
12-26-2005, 04:08 AM
Then Cloud and co would have not met Cait-Sith and wouldn't have ended up in that depressing prison.

What if Corel hadn't been destroyed?

Squall Leonhart
12-26-2005, 07:47 PM
What if Sephiroth was the good guy and Cloud the bad guy :eek:.This should keep this thread alive ;)

Phoenix Flame
12-28-2005, 03:03 PM
Arkacia - Then Barrett would not have had a reason to fight. He would still have his wife and his best friend Dyne. Much of the storyline would be changed. Since Tifa fought with Barrett it's questionable if Square would need a new main character or not...probably not though. Great question!

Squall Leonheart - I think that Tifa would be the main character then...not Sephiroth. She'd have to fight against Cloud AND against her feelings for him (however strong they may be.) However, the entity of the entire game would change due to the fact that the whole reason Sephiroth IS the bad guy is because of Jenova - Cloud's excuse would have to be much, much different.

How about a fun one... What if...instead of lulling around in the desert and underwater. The two fiercest enemies in the game (Ruby and Emerald weapon) were fighting to see which would get to Sephiroth first @ the Northern Cavern?

Barret05
12-28-2005, 03:51 PM
Den gud ol sephy wuld be screwd lol

Squall Leonhart
01-01-2006, 06:50 PM
What if Barret never had his arm shot?

Phoenix Flame
01-02-2006, 01:01 AM
I belive that he would still be waring against the Shin-Ra because of Corel. He lost his hometown, and his woman. That would be enough to make me blow up a couple of reactors also :)
Barret - although he was a hot head after the destruction of Corel - seemed like a down-to-Gaia kind of guy. He had core values (wanting to protect the livelihood of his forefathers - the coal) He was a man of tradition. Then when Shin-Ra took that away from him he kinda snapped.

What if...instead of having the materia system, square stuck with the esper/learn-curve system (such as in FF IV.)

Zeromus_X
01-02-2006, 03:31 AM
(actually, ffvi used the esper system :) )

then alot of the story would have to change, as alot of the plot revolves around materia. (like meteor and holy)

then again, i guess holy and meteor could be summons...meh.

what if... the sector 7 plate never fell? (i will never forgive shinra!!! :mad: :p )

Squall Leonhart
01-04-2006, 01:38 AM
People wouldn't die(but the planet would :p )

What if there really was a chesse WEAPON?

Zeromus_X
01-04-2006, 02:33 AM
then the game would be ruined... :p

what if cid acheived his dream of (finally) going into space?

Squall Leonhart
01-04-2006, 03:23 AM
He would learn rocket sience and be a millionare!

What if there was an another character who evil and does not die?

Barret05
01-05-2006, 01:57 PM
What if Zack was never killed :eek:

Squall Leonhart
01-05-2006, 11:26 PM
Then, uh.... he would be alive :D

What if the Highwind could travel into space?

Barret05
01-06-2006, 01:55 PM
Then, uh.... he would be alive :D

What if the Highwind could travel into space?

Den nuthin would change if ya think bout it :p

Barret05
01-06-2006, 01:56 PM
Then, uh.... he would be alive :D


I meant how would it affect da story

Lythaea
01-17-2006, 05:20 PM
What if Cloud had lost it and killed Aeris while she was praying on the altar before Sephiroth got to her? He was totally thinking about doing it, even though he really didn't want to. Man, he'd probably be more scarred than he already is. :(

Lythaea
01-17-2006, 05:25 PM
What if Cloud had lost it and killed Aeris while she was praying on the alter before Sephiroth even got to her?

Tiny Bronco
01-17-2006, 05:36 PM
If Cloud had lost it and killed Aris then she might not have been able to "activate" Holy and Sepiroth would win. Or at least meteor would hit. :mad:

What if Cid didn't let Cloud and company take the Tiny Bronco and instead tried to repare it :)

Phoenix Flame
01-31-2006, 12:46 AM
Then Yuffie wouldn't have the chance to steal all (or most) of their materia and that whole annoying sidequest would never occurr!!! :)

What if...Cid was smoking pot instead of a cigarette the whole game :o

jessek705
02-03-2006, 11:07 PM
What if Cloud had died from all that exposure to mako instead of turning up and being saved in mideel

Tiny Bronco
02-03-2006, 11:49 PM
Then Everyone else would continue on without Cloud and probably get killed by Sephiroth or they would give up.

If Cid was smoking pot instead of a cigaret that would explain a lot of things... And be very funny. :D

What if one of the following died in the Sector 7 crash; Cloud, Tifa, or Barret.

Squall Lionheart
02-04-2006, 01:05 AM
....it would be the end of the world?......

Phoenix Flame
02-25-2006, 11:55 PM
I must appologize - I've let this thread die-off...

I think if Tifa died, Cloud wouldn't be such a wuss throughout the game - he's have been a better hero - but then who knows.

I think that if Barret died the game would not have been effected much - sorry, just MO. Perhaps the North corel mission would have been interesting though.

If Cloud died - yes, I think the party would have given up hope...but perhaps Sephiroth wouldn't have gotten his hands on the Black Materia in the first place...good question.

What would the game have been like if Cloud was in love with Yuffie...just for kicks :)

Zeromus_X
02-26-2006, 12:07 AM
Then we'd never figure out what to do because Cloud would keep saying "Let's go see that Ninja Chick in the Forest again!" :p

Yeah, since Yuffie's an optional character, it may not work, but it would lead to some interesting side-quests! :D

"Let's let her keep the Materia!"

"Cloud, what are you thinking?!"

gcarev10
02-26-2006, 11:25 AM
what if Aries not die, and what if Dyne join to u.

darkmajinvegeta
03-06-2006, 01:11 PM
cool what everyone talking about!!!!

ShadowHeart
03-06-2006, 06:26 PM
Try reading the first post!

This thread is about "what if...". "What if Aeries did not die", what would happen then instead? Etc..

Tiny Bronco
03-06-2006, 06:33 PM
LOL!
That was such a stupid question. :D Makes me laugh! :D

I always thought it would be cool if Dyne joined your party gcarev10.

What if...
Tifa had died in the gas chamber in Juno. :eek:
Better yet. What if they didn't steal the Highwind. :eek:

Phoenix Flame
06-01-2006, 05:25 AM
Cloud would have leveled Junon on a mission of revenge!

But if they didn't steal the Highwind, Tifa was getting ready to knock that Bit#* out! Heh heh.

What if...Cloud's mission was to join the Turks instead of Soldier?

Zeromus_X
06-01-2006, 05:27 AM
Then he'd have a nifty stun-rod instead of an oversized sword.

What if Kitten Sith got to be a casino employee?

murza
06-01-2006, 08:15 AM
what if there was no tifa?

the story would be totally different from the start :P since at the beginning cloud used tifa memories to become cloud and cloud doesnt know barret and others.

probally cloud and barret would have a battle against each other. since they didnt like each other from the start

maybe cloud became zack? instead of meeting tifa he met aeris (plu zack was aeris bf)

Sepiroth wins at the end? tifa the reason why cloud recovered

what u think?

blackadder93
06-01-2006, 01:00 PM
What if Tifa died insted of Aeris.

Zeromus_X
06-02-2006, 06:50 AM
I think he'd make a cute casino employee! =3

Uh...yeah. As for the question, I'd say Cloud would be depressed either way. Probably moreso for Tifa. (Childhood friends and what-not.)

What if...I still stand by my question. I mean, look at him! He's a kitty! He'd make a great employee! Possibly a dealer at a table...or...

Okay, fine. What if...Yuffie and Vincent weren't optional characters?

Phoenix Flame
06-02-2006, 06:55 AM
There would be more sidequests for the both of them - and more in-depth actual story line pertaining to their lives.


Guys, please try not to post and answer your own questions...k?

My turn I guess.

What if...Jenova wasn't a "calamity from the sky" but instead was an evolved life force from the planet?

wakka
06-06-2006, 10:20 AM
he probably use his fists

wakka
06-06-2006, 10:24 AM
dyne would never join the group because of his sadness and anger for barret and barret doter

Hydra
06-06-2006, 10:52 AM
What if Diamond Weapon didn't get shot and killed by the Mako Cannon?

Phoenix Flame
06-06-2006, 06:48 PM
Cloud and the gang were doing pretty well tearing him a hew one IMO... They would have slaughtered him eventually. Millions of HP or not :-)


My posted question remains: What if...Jenova wasn't a "calamity from the sky" but instead was an evolved life force from the planet?

Dark FFnut
06-06-2006, 08:16 PM
Then the story would've been more like Chrono Trigger's; Jenova probably would have had total control of planetary evolution by that point, and the whole Sephiroth thing would've never gotten off the ground - Jenova wouldn't need Seph if it already controlled the planet.

I'm not reading the rest of this topic - so I'm not posting a What If of my own.

Phoenix Flame
06-06-2006, 08:34 PM
Very good (and good to see you) Dark FFNut! I liked how you worded that!

What if...Elena would have sided w/Cloud's gang instead of the Turks?

Phoenix Flame
06-27-2006, 02:15 PM
Would have at least make the "love triangle" pretty interesting...intense, no?