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Crazi
04-05-2006, 04:13 PM
just wanted to know if any of ya'll have defeated penance or nemesis yet ..and if so ...what kind of set up did you have ... and ...how long did it take you to get there? cuz from looking at their health .. a nice cool 100 mil ... (i think),it seems daunting. >_< plz post ur thoughts. oh and i'm new here so hi all! :D

Zeromus_X
04-05-2006, 09:28 PM
Hiya! I'm pretty sure Nemesis has like 10 Million, but I'm not too entirely sure about Penance, I don't have the version of the game with him in it. :P

As for how to defeat it...I haven't done so, but this person does xD (http://n.ethz.ch/student/wmartin/videos/FFX%20INT%20(JP)%20Penance%20Battle%20(Zanmato).rm )

I'm sure there are many guides on Penance on the internet, so, I guess try Gamefaqs (http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/game/197344.html), unless someone else here has actually beaten him, I suppose they could give you help :)

Avathar
04-06-2006, 06:56 AM
:p Ah, geez, with Zanmato, you're literally invincible in FFX (and a friend of mine also found a way to get lots of money quickly, so :rolleyes: although it's been a while since i've played it myself :D ...

ThroneofDravaris
04-06-2006, 09:38 AM
With a maxed out party, Nemesis is easy. Period.
Penance is a pain, but once you work out the trick to beating him you'll take him down with a 100% success rate.

Crazi
04-06-2006, 11:55 AM
lol ok, well thx guys. still actually get my part maxed is gonna take me forever .. i have most of their ultimate wepons, (my squad is usually tidus,auron,lulu) all with ultimate wepons ... but getting their health maxed is my main concern, u know how i can get wings to discovery easily? .. i heard malboros were good for them ..

Zeromus_X
04-06-2006, 09:21 PM
Yes, use Bribe on a Malboro for 540,000 gil for 4 Wings to Discover, and 1,280,000 gil on a Great Malboro for 8. :) Needless to say, they aren't easy to obtain. What ability do you get from them? ^^;; (I forgot...:P) How I bet money for bribing, I go to Omega Ruins with Rikku's weapon, Godhand, which has Millionaire on it, although any Millionaire weapon will do. (You need Designer Wallets for it, I believe.) It's just easier to get Rikku's Ultimate Weapon instead. I fight the Mimic enemies, which normally give 50,000 Gil apiece, now 100,000 a pop. That's the fastest way I make money, don't know if there's a better way :D

Crazi
04-10-2006, 07:52 PM
Wings to discovery are for break HP limit, essential for dark aeons and such. And thanx for the money tips! i'm reeling in the cash now =D

Zeromus_X
04-10-2006, 07:57 PM
Y'know, wouldn't it be alot easier to just get everyone's Celestial Weapon? :confused:

Crazi
04-10-2006, 08:06 PM
ye, i s'pose it would.. . but i only really use the 3 in my squad, maybe i'll go do that before i tackle penance and nemesis.

Lokzor
04-25-2006, 04:29 PM
Isn't Penance supposed to be Lady Yunalesca's final aeon?

And where's Nemesis found? Is that only in the International Edition?

Alter Slash
04-27-2006, 04:23 PM
who the H311 is penace? i thought that was what biran and yenke said to repay kimarhi(sorry i spelled name wrong)

Zeromus_X
04-27-2006, 05:51 PM
Nemesis is a monster arena boss, the most powerful, and he's in every version of FFX.

Penance is in the PAL and International versions of FFX, and he's the most powerful optional boss of 'em all. (Although, due to the CTB system, nothing's really too difficult if you fight correctly...) I believe he appears as an airship location after you defeat all the Dark Aeons. (Also in PAL/International versions.)

For the rest of the information, you know where to look. ;)

ThroneofDravaris
04-28-2006, 09:56 AM
Break HP Limit is a waste of time against Penance, as you'll be far better off with Auto Protect, Defence +20%, Auto Haste and Auto Potion.

Zeromus_X
04-28-2006, 11:24 AM
Oh, I thought you said 'Break Damage Limit". :p Yeah, most people think that Break HP Limit is a waste of time. (Since there are many other things that would help you more, and there aren't too many attacks that go over 9,999 damage used by enemies.)

There was a list somewhere...

Vincent
05-21-2006, 05:07 PM
i didnt fought it, but why dont u use magus sisters and bahamut?
theyre just f*ckin great :P

Hydra
05-21-2006, 05:11 PM
lol, I'm very tempted to use Zanmato. He keeps beating me, and I get so close. >.< Penance anyway.

dappa
11-22-2006, 05:34 PM
I have captured all the fiends in the world and nemesis still dont show up in the monster arena for me to fight him.

Spec Highwind
11-22-2006, 05:37 PM
You have to capture 10 of every fiend

Phoenix Flame
11-23-2006, 03:04 AM
You have to capture 10 of every fiend


Sometimes, when you have captured 10 of every fiend, he still won't show up (bug.)

If that is the problem, leave the screen and come back and you should get the message. Check w/the monster arena manager to see which monsters, if any, you are missing. (Keep in mind that some areas have two pages of monsters.)

dappa
11-23-2006, 02:50 PM
He is still not showing up. I have tried the above and its still not working. I would love to challenge him, probably get whooped by him though (lol)

Phoenix Flame
11-24-2006, 03:00 AM
Which version are you playing?

1) PC, or PS2?
2) PAL, or US?

I'm sure that whichever you are using would make a difference.

Meh - I forgot something. After you unlock all the monsters in the arena (this includes all of the area, species and original creations) you have to fight and defeat them all to fight Nemesis...that's right, one at a time!!! Sorry, I forgot about that important detail. If you have any problems defeating any of the enemies, just remember that some of them can only be defeated with really high stats and by 'sacrificing' aeons.

dappa
11-24-2006, 04:55 PM
Which version are you playing?

1) PC, or PS2?
2) PAL, or US?

I'm sure that whichever you are using would make a difference.

Meh - I forgot something. After you unlock all the monsters in the arena (this includes all of the area, species and original creations) you have to fight and defeat them all to fight Nemesis...that's right, one at a time!!! Sorry, I forgot about that important detail. If you have any problems defeating any of the enemies, just remember that some of them can only be defeated with really high stats and by 'sacrificing' aeons.

I have the ps2 version with dark aeons in it.

Ahh that is gonna be a toughie defeating every species conquest and original monster creations. I think my anima is up for the job.

UltimaBlitzStar
03-22-2007, 06:03 PM
u also have 2 have defeated evry monster in the monster arena aswell i think

Phoenix Flame
03-22-2007, 07:29 PM
u also have 2 have defeated evry monster in the monster arena aswell i think

.....weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeell:


Meh - I forgot something. After you unlock all the monsters in the arena (this includes all of the area, species and original creations) you have to fight and defeat them all to fight Nemesis...that's right, one at a time!!! Sorry, I forgot about that important detail. If you have any problems defeating any of the enemies, just remember that some of them can only be defeated with really high stats and by 'sacrificing' aeons.


:p ;)

dappa
03-22-2007, 07:39 PM
My official guide only mentions that you have to defeat all the original creation monsters and I have done that but I have yet to see nemesis.

Seing as I have disposed of most of the dark aeons I suppose nemesis wont be to hard, Im more worried about penance.

ThroneofDravaris
03-22-2007, 08:38 PM
You also have to capture 10 of every fiend.

And yes, Penance is much harder than Nemesis.

UltimaBlitzStar
03-23-2007, 02:08 AM
well i havnt versed nemesis yet but i can only assume that penece is much harder. coz i cant b bothered capturing 10 of every fiend co i nvr find the right 1's V__V

dappa
03-26-2007, 03:29 PM
I have every fiend captured plus I have defeated all the original creation monsters, no nemesis yet.

Phoenix Flame
03-27-2007, 02:09 AM
You also have to capture 10 of every fiend.

And yes, Penance is much harder than Nemesis.

ToD is correct (and thanks for reminding me.)

So, once you capture 10 of every fiend, unlock all the monsters, AND DEFEAT THEM ALL... you will unlock Nemesis.

Keep in mind that sometimes the game glitches <ONCE YOU ARE SURE YOU HAVE DEFEATED EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM> and won't unlock Nemesis...I read this somewhere. So go back out of the screen and go back in to talk to the keeper and you should get a message "I've created a monster!"

dappa
04-02-2007, 02:29 PM
Tried that aswell. still no nemesis. I have cleared this game twice and nemesis still aint shown up on both games.

Phoenix Flame
04-09-2007, 04:08 AM
zOMGosh! Mail me the damn game with your memory card already *Rantsatcomputerscreen* WTF!

Dappa, seriously. j00 sure you have 10 of every monster?

j00 sure you pwn'd EVERY monster in t3hr3?

j00 sure you've checked gamefaqs for an explanation... *faints*

Sorry man - if you've exhaused all of the resources...where does that leave us?

Phoenix Flame
05-19-2007, 11:26 AM
......sorry for my rant.

...any luck yet Dappa???

dappa
05-19-2007, 10:35 PM
Nah I've given up on it, its a bug from what I've heard

Phoenix Flame
05-20-2007, 01:50 AM
_~_ ...sucks!

TherathxRikku
10-24-2009, 05:13 AM
where does that leave us?

At war with the doughnuts? ^-^

I've beaten Nemesis a few times, I'm kinda bored with him, though. I want International so BAD!!! Above anything else, I wanna fight Penance! >.<

rissole25
10-25-2009, 01:02 AM
i havent fought any of them. im still maxing the sphere grid and getting the celestial weapons (i hate you Thunder Plains). But i cant wait till i battle them

TherathxRikku
10-26-2009, 05:16 PM
I posted a strategy on the Thunder Plains on another thread. :)

rissole25
10-27-2009, 04:30 AM
i think i might of read it. Im not sure. Its just I could do it but I couldn't stand waiting 20-30 minutes of pressing X at random times although i could take breaks.

TherathxRikku
10-27-2009, 08:38 AM
Depending on what you meant you mean by break, you could. Cause the second you change areas, then the process starts over. Stupid, eh?

If you haven't fought Nemesis yet, I'll tell you right now, he gets boring, quick. Quick Hit is the WHOLE strategy to beating him and if you have three characters' Agility maxed out, then it's no challenge. >_>

He'll attack like...once.

rissole25
10-27-2009, 05:48 PM
bahaha so easy. Na i haven't fought him. Can you only fight him once?

TherathxRikku
10-27-2009, 09:20 PM
Mine lets me fight him all I want.

rissole25
10-28-2009, 03:43 AM
Oh okay. Thats good. I just thought he would be a one-off thing like penance

TherathxRikku
10-28-2009, 09:34 AM
Shouldn't be, I can't promise anything about International, though.

clief101_
10-28-2009, 09:41 AM
nemisis u can fight anytime u want, but u need 10 of every monster, hes in the monster collecters thing?? ive havent actually captured all the monsters yet, and i havent killed all of the dark aeons yet to fight penence :(

TherathxRikku
10-28-2009, 09:50 AM
Capture 10 of every monster and fight the Original Creations, I think the Species and Area Conquests count too, but I fought them anyway.

rissole25
10-28-2009, 11:03 PM
It takes so long to capture all the fiends of Spira. Whenever I want one to appear, it doesn't appear. Whenever I don't want one to appear, it appears.

TherathxRikku
10-29-2009, 12:18 AM
That's where patience rears it's ugly head. >_> It helps me to have music playing and to mute the tv.

rissole25
10-29-2009, 08:19 AM
Yea...I might just do one area at a time. Like once i get 10 of every fiend in the area, then I have a break for 10 mins

TherathxRikku
10-31-2009, 02:39 AM
That's the best strategy. Another thing to think about is most enemies hang out in a single part of an area. Like stronger enemies hang out in the northeast of the Calm Lands, while weaker enemies hang out everywhere else.

rissole25
10-31-2009, 09:31 PM
I forgot about that. Well Besaid will be easy since there's only 3 fiends there. I think I have about 4 or 5 of each fiend there. lol

TherathxRikku
10-31-2009, 10:04 PM
Wanna hear something funny? Besaid is the best place to get experience if you have the Overdrive -> AP weapons. lol

rissole25
10-31-2009, 10:06 PM
Really? I just use the Don Tonberry Trick.

TherathxRikku
11-01-2009, 06:07 AM
Cactuar King is most useful if you do it right, if you screw up, you only get about 30,000.

rissole25
11-01-2009, 06:58 AM
I read that you don't get as much from Cactuar King as you would from Don Tonberry. I think I could win against it anyway. I'm afraid of 99,999 needles. :) lol

clief101_
11-01-2009, 10:55 AM
i think iv captured 10 of every monster for the 1st 4-5 areas...its annoying...my stats arnt good nuf to do that stuff...where to u get hp speres from? and the rest? coz i would like to improve my stats

TherathxRikku
11-01-2009, 06:29 PM
You could probably Bribe them from enemies, which ones, I have no clue..

Cactuar King has a glitch if you have Overdrive -> AP. Get Triple and Double Overdrive on the same weapon, then set your Overdrive to Ally and let Cactuar King annihilate any character aside from the one wearing the weapon. Then after you beat it, you should get around 1,000,000 AP.

clief101_
11-02-2009, 12:16 AM
wow....thats alot of AP....but my tidus has completed to spere grid....jus need to fill in the empty nodes....jus gota find stuff to fill them with lol

rissole25
11-02-2009, 04:50 AM
Yea thats the Don Tonberry trick as well. And my Yuna has almost completed the grid. Shes the strongest in my party.

If you want max stats then you have to use clear spheres on anything that doesn't add 4 to the stat. Then you use any sphere on the empty sphere because spheres you add to the grid always add 4. HP spheres just add 300 if added and I dunno about MP spheres. But you don't need MP and HP spheres unless you want to break the HP limit. You automatically reach 9999 HP & 999 MP eventually.

TherathxRikku
11-02-2009, 05:07 AM
So many tricks for easy AP. lol

rissole25
11-02-2009, 05:44 AM
Lol i didn't know about till I watched a youtube video of someone getting about 60 sphere levels for Auron.

clief101_
11-02-2009, 06:21 AM
iv seen my friend do it, but i wasnt anywhere near finishing the game, so i didnt overly pay any attention?

TherathxRikku
11-02-2009, 06:55 AM
It's always at the beginning of the game you find tips for AP that comes later in the game and when you finally get there, you're like..........."CRAP!!!"

clief101_
11-02-2009, 07:34 AM
lmao, thats so true. then u gota waste time and go to somewhere like gamefaqs.com to find what u want to know.

TherathxRikku
11-03-2009, 01:50 AM
What really sucks is when you desperately need an item that you could only acquire early in the game. >_>

rissole25
11-03-2009, 04:27 AM
I hate that. Especially at the beginning/middle of the game when you run out of power/mana/speed/ability spheres

TherathxRikku
11-03-2009, 08:11 PM
Which are easy to find once you get the airship, go back to Besaid and fight all the monsters for like an hour and you should have 99 of everything. :D

rissole25
11-04-2009, 04:19 AM
Or use a power/mana/speed/ability distiller on Kottos and overkill it. Then you get 40 of that type of sphere.

TherathxRikku
11-05-2009, 03:02 AM
O_O

Never thought of that...

rissole25
11-05-2009, 04:06 AM
Didn't you no that?

TherathxRikku
11-05-2009, 08:11 PM
Honestly, no...course I don't really play anymore, I'm addicted to the PSP games now.

rissole25
11-06-2009, 04:18 AM
This is off topic but I find it annoying how they make a game and its sequel is on a different console to what the original game was on.

Like Ratchet & Clank. All there new games are on PS3. They could at least make the new games on PS2 as well.

TherathxRikku
11-06-2009, 05:05 AM
If KHIII is gonna be made, it will be for the PS3.

rissole25
11-06-2009, 05:11 AM
I know. And i'll have to buy a PS3 just to play it. Dam Sony lol

clief101_
11-07-2009, 07:16 AM
its good in a way so they can utilise the beter graphics. that and they are slowly phasing out the PS2....its taking a while though

rissole25
11-07-2009, 08:48 PM
Yea the number of new PS2 games is low these days.

But soon the PS3 will be phased out once the PS4 comes out.

TherathxRikku
11-09-2009, 03:00 AM
Final Fantasy meets Sony. If you don't get the joke, move on.

Heartless Angel
11-13-2009, 12:06 AM
Nemesis is easy, as long as you have Auto Phoenix, Auto Haste, Reraise and quick hit with 99999 each hit. You have to hit him 100 times.

Penace... never gave me much of a problem, as I killed him with 2 hits. :P

rissole25
11-13-2009, 05:05 AM
2 HITS?

How is that possible...

Unless Zanmato?

TherathxRikku
11-13-2009, 10:24 AM
Zanmato seems the only way. *ever so epic point* You, Sir, Are Ingenious with your Laziness!!!!!!

Heartless Angel
11-14-2009, 12:38 AM
2 HITS?

How is that possible...

Unless Zanmato?

Oh sorry, forgot about that, yes it was Zanmato. Had to give up about close to 7 Million gil, but it worked.


Zanmato seems the only way. *ever so epic point* You, Sir, Are Ingenious with your Laziness!!!!!!

Why thank you... ;D.

TherathxRikku
11-14-2009, 03:22 AM
You are quite welcome, my friendly doughnut. :P

shinji08
11-05-2011, 08:42 AM
Hey! In my opinion getting genji armors will do in maxing HPs ;) currently i have tidus armor which is genji shield with an break hp limit. Were the same in getting their HP maxed. But i dont have any idea where to find the other genji equipments. SOSADDDD.