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~Hidan~ 03-20-2005 02:13 AM

What is hotter? Heaven or Hell?
 
Well I want everyone to tell me what they think, I'll set my theory down later.

ShadowHeart 03-20-2005 05:18 AM

No idea, but let me add this instead: Every religious person believes that everyone who doesn't follow their religion will go to hell. Since noone believes in more than one religion (and some none, including me) that means *everyone* will go to hell :D

Gumdrop 03-20-2005 12:57 PM

hell I guess....

Spiff 03-20-2005 03:24 PM

Hell really didn't have flames and fire until Daunte's Inferno, I believe it was thought to be made of ice.

So I would say heaven because it's warm.

Shadowheart, There's really only two religions. Islam, Judism, and Christianity believe in the same god(just different ways to reach IE not blowing people up :rolleyes: ), and Hiduism and buddhism believes in reincarnation.

Shaggy 03-20-2005 03:37 PM

Here we go with religion.. :p

Don't let me get started with this stuff!

They are both the same temp. ;)

Mong00se 03-26-2005 12:30 AM

Because I don't believe in religion, because I think it's just guidelines for people who can't make up their own morals (no offense to any church goers), I'm going to say hell, just based on the movie "Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey." Hell looked like a pretty smokin place.

Shaggy 03-26-2005 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mong00se
Because I don't believe in religion, because I think it's just guidelines for people who can't make up their own morals (no offense to any church goers).

I agree with you Mong00se!

Spiff 03-26-2005 05:34 PM

I can't disagree with that statement because that's what religion is, religion brings order to chaos. IMO, humans wouldn't be where they are today without it, besides bringing morals to humanity religion also brings a sense of purpose.

ShadowHeart 03-26-2005 07:15 PM

And religion also brings death and wars, when ppl have different beliefs and become fanatics.

Shaggy 03-26-2005 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadowheart
And religion also brings death and wars, when ppl have different beliefs and become fanatics.

Bingo bango. I can't fathum how people kill each other on what they believe in, when they have never really seen it.

FFnut 03-26-2005 08:34 PM

Eh. That's not JUST religion. I just learned about the Rose War in Social Studies a few days ago. A guy with a crest of a white rose was in a war with a guy whose family crest was a red rose. My teacher quoted it as "The only war where men would die over the color of a rose without knowing what it stood for." (Incidentally, this war was the basis of the majority of the storyline in FFT; The "Lion War" between Larg and Goltana because both of their family crests had different colored lions on them, for instance, and the way that King Richard III was king because he was the regent over the true rulers until they were eighteen, much like Larg had regency over two-year-old Prince Orinas.) Basically, people will die for whatever they're taught. Most people use religion as a basis of their life - when that is threatened, they'll die for it.

Are you all telling me you wouldn't take a bullet to save an FF game? :D

Spiff 03-27-2005 02:22 PM

People will die for what they believe in because of their ego. They can't stand being told they're wrong.

Totorosama 10-25-2005 06:58 PM

Re: What is hotter? Heaven or Hell?
 
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Originally Posted by Spiff
Shadowheart, There's really only two religions.

Not really...how about the native religions of Africa, America, South America, etc...
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Originally Posted by Shadowheart
And religion also brings death and wars, when ppl have different beliefs and become fanatics.

Agreed. We don't really need religion, I think, just the morals. I believe in the people to destroy themselves and everyone else, or to help others bring peace. With entropy around, I don't think that we're going to have some kind of perfect world someday. After all, there are all these black holes sucking up all matter out there, and one day, all matter is going to be crushed in a gigantic black hole and explode again, creating a new universe all over. I got that from science.

~Hidan~ 10-25-2005 07:44 PM

Re: What is hotter? Heaven or Hell?
 
Acording to a friend of mine in that was taking physics. Heaven is suposedly like 20x hotted then hell due to the 100x brighterthen earth part of the bible, and that hell is only as hot as the meltingpoint of brimstone.

Spiff 10-26-2005 04:14 PM

Re: What is hotter? Heaven or Hell?
 
With religon comes greed, power, and many other sins that the bible says are bad. You really don't have to go to church or follow a religon, if you believe you will be saved. Also, I haven't confirmed this yet but I heard that there are passages in the bible that state that religon is the worse thing humans can create because they start to elvate themselves above god.

As to heaven being hotter than hell, maybe that's why when you run into spirits the room you're in becomes cold. :) But I don't like spirits can feel heat anyways.

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Not really...how about the native religions of Africa, America, South America, etc...
Ok, you got me. I forgot pagan religons.


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