Squall is dead (theory)
 

I thought you guys might be interested in this;
http://squallsdead.com/

I like this theory an awful lot, it makes FFVIII seem really dark and more interesting to me. Just a shame I doubt that you were supposed to see things this way :p

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wow, i jus read this, and it actualy makes alot of sense

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eh! 0.0 never heard that before *starts readin*
i'll take notes as i read

ok, he didn't close his eyes when he got struck by the ice javelin (it's what they think might've happened); err how can you in a dream discover events about your past, new lands, detailed information that once seemed unclear before. In this way at any given time that someone falls asleep or passez out for a while, we could always call the rest of what happens a dream (like the aerith/sephiroth death scene, maybe the rest was HER dream)

err.. i'll argue about what they call 'orphanage plot' later, i'd have a headache over that; for evidence 1; it's absolutely corrcet that it's kind of a premonition what he thought when hearin bout teh execution, but that was for the ending when everyone thinks its his end (a side note, i don't remember alot, but what i remember i'm very sure of, and that quote in no.1 was in the forest replying to rinoa, before knowing anything about what'll happen to seifer in the first place; it was when zell was worried over garden and squall was pessimistic about it and wasn't sure the students could fight back, see :p)

no. 2 (jeez it feelz like a report) i don't remember this clearly, but i think it had something to do with magic damage not being permanent, err besides, he's the first who charged to attack'er right? seifer was KO'ed and she (more like ultimecia than edea) wouldn't know who's graduated and who didn't to know who to keep alive

3. um.. that first paragraph got me copletely lost -.-" cant see its point *reads 2nd paragraph* umm it is called FF for a reason ^.^" and lunar cry -for example- was known information available long before the assassination; i would've ranted about every sub part, but i stopped at point (c) since it' too repetitive, of course everything could look like a fantasy, with good reajon too silly :p (srsly, what am i supposed to say to someone who says 'it's absolutely logical, and it's crazy too!' o.O)

4- (im tired, yet it's fun to discuss in game again :D) .. a chill ran up my spin too (rly) 0.0! *skips a few paragraphs* yes yes i know what happened where' s the point already? .... c'moooooon *keeps quick-readin til spotin a point* nope, sry, but that's jus unfair, the parade flashback wasn't noticeably longer than any of the other events (imo) *notices a pic* ewwww, what sicko picture there! remids me of garnet dagger's traumatizing pics *shudders, then scrolls below it* err.. i won't pretend i read all that part, but i think in the end his memories somehow gets messed up kind of like the descrip. thar, the trying to remember part the shattering glass after which he thought that was what happened coz he still had doubts n trust issues coz he was alone (ionno, mebee mainstream think it happened differently too, but imo these guys are tryin -only in this part- to bend what happened to synchronize it with their theory-)

'one last thing' vanilla sky SUCKED >.< -badly too, as MUCH as i have hots for penolope cruz i still admit it- it was a failed plot; *skips throught 2 paragraphs* OMMFG!!!! thar is nothing similar between the two in the first place so that you say 'the only difference between them could be' (if it makez any difference, it's about how i hated VS rather than liking ff at all)

*eyes spark evil glow*

burn'im ..slowly.. (ahem) ok, so i'm not always nice bout other opinions u.u``
anyway, well umm, in vanilla sky, if they didn't tell us what happened i swear lotz o'ppl would've asked for their money back or burned its cast too (no offense at all to anyone who actually liked the movie)

*readz* "Everything that happens to the characters after the first disc is retarded"

that's it, i'll over-kill'em (it's a joke.. when j00 look @ me like that then it's a joke >.>)

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oh, it didn't turn out that i was talkin too much and would exceed the char limit/post

anywayz, gotta say again, it feelz greeeeaaaaaaat to be discussin 'plots' n stuff again (tnx gumdrop n welcome back), its been waaaay too long; especially that it's somethin i haven't heard before

but in teh end, it's a good effort; not as impressive as some other more famous theories/rumours, but still good; i would've hated if it was the end of squall yeah, story could've been greater if somebody died; then again what they're basin their theory on i could come up wit somethin similar by sayin that dissidia originated from a guy who's had bad mushrooms

i'll point out that those 2 guys admitted that they didn't like most of it so this is how they chose to think about it; they also admitted havin no conclusive evidence; but then again i could come up

but a neat thing i liked at the end that they said (which isn't clear, yet is true) erryone will believe what they want about what happened, it's what keeps ppl from jumpin at each others' throats over their differences (i'll still kill'em over their vanilla sky comparison, i jus HATE that movie :p)

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They ain't saying its a dream though, but rather parts of his life flashing before his eyes and getting all mixed up.
And since a lot of what happens in VIII is deelpy silly after the part where hes struck down it makes more sense for the rest to not make perfect sense if these are the images from his final moments.
If he did die at the end of the first disc then the things he discovers and all else could well be fabrications/fantasy.

Cheers for the welcome back. Am glad to see you're still truckin' ;)

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ehHh? O.o
if they're parts o' his life so they happened right? so he lived after teh parade right? M not followin -.-"

i don get what someone wouldn like bout teh plot -i like it so mebee that's prolly y-; r teh ones not likin it the same onez easily acceptin this theory coz it soundz cooler/darker etc.?

it's weird coz i thought ppl who've been throught lots o'other ffs would've seen enough crazee stuff to consider this one pretty logical compared to'em while the others who've had only 1 or 2 (liek my case) wouldn't easily accept it; but lookin @ what's happenin nao, it's teh complete opposite ...what goin on? 0.0


an all of that is besidez teh conclusive point:


vanilla sky = S-U-C-K-E-D >:-(
then this theory = not true, good day (^_^)/

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If he did die at disc one then you could say nothing after actuallly happened, but that would be pretty naff. I guess fragments did happen at least, like growing up in the orphanage. Maybe them all having turn out to have grown up together there was part of his wishing for a family? That would explain why Rinoa wasn't there (if the theory was right) since she is his love interest.
I would have thought that if Irvine did remember them all (as he said he did stright away later in the game) he would have acted differently when he saw them again for the first time.

That probably has something to do with it :p FFVIII has the most crazy turns in it by far. The vast majority of FF fans liked VIII so I would be suprised if none of them thought it was cool the way that it is.

I never saw VS, they just compaired the theory to it is all.

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I just read it, and thought it could be very true.

But na, I'm just gonna think of it as what I first thought it was. That Squall is alive and everything that happened did happen. :D

Oh and I don't believe in the R=U theory, but its still a good theory

But yes, they did make a good point. They did drop major points just like that. Ultimecia was introduced very quickly.

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wats the R=U theory??

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Wow! Stunning! I never thought of it this way... but it makes sense to me, although I would probably never think of it by myself.

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Since when did making up stories and how new they are compensated for using your own brain...

It's nonsense