[Zeon]

has anyone ever tried beating nemisis or penace without the use of zanmato?? its bloody hard and ive come close against penace but never done it. including the use of 255 stats for everything except luck and also ribbon, break hp/damage limits and also the overdrives maxed out at the beginning of the battle. my party consists usually off yuna, tidus and wakka due to their limits doing the most damage (eg: wakka atk reels 12X 99,999 damage, yuna grand summon anima doing about 500,000 - 1,000,000damage and tidus 8 maybe 9 X 99,999 damage (which actually can sometimes do less for some reason but oh well.....)) not matter what i do i cant ever win. penace has 12million hp which at best ive removed 8mill of it before losing (which im proud of) but i just cant do it no matter what i try. nemisis was not tht hard but did take ages to do. at least 4 hours of attempts over and over (im sad like tht) has anyone else done these??? and if they have explain to me how u did it