Best GF ever..... - Page 6

Caras · 10-07-2006, 04:20 PM

I havent played this in a long time but I've always like Bahamut.

Squall Lionheart · 10-28-2006, 07:30 AM

I knew some of the other FF wakos couldn't help themselves to stay away from here which is why I put GF Phoenix...and my doubts were right...

How would they like it if I spoil whatever they make...

Maybe GF Bahamut is the most chosen but I'm very sure he was chosen for the wrong reasons in some cases...

ThroneofDravaris · 10-28-2006, 10:32 AM

Bahamut. GFs are almost complete useless to use offensively (like pretty much every other non-limit attack due to FFVIII's horribly unbalanced battle system), so it really just comes down to abilities. Bahamut's Abilityx4, Strength +60%, Auto-Protect and Forbid Mag-RF pretty much make him the best choice.

Squall Lionheart · 10-28-2006, 11:41 AM

............

Not to change the subject, but you're very wrong calling the Battle System "unbalanced"...Guardian Forces have many uses other than their abilities...

In the beginning GFs are the best option to use against your enemies and cause tremendous damage to enemies...double the dealt damage in case of using the right element as well as status change in some cases...

For example after reaching high levels and depending on physical attacks, some GFs are still good advantage not only for their abilities (Command, Menu, Character, Party, etc...) but for their use themselves i.e. GF Odin, Gilgamesh, Eden, Phoenix, Cerberus, Carbuncle, Doomtrain etc...

Even with good physical attacks, summoning any GF can be useful...
For example a highly compatible GF can deal equal or more damage than a physical attack ( Very effective against enemies with high Vitality Stat ) depending on the GF's boost...also summoning that GF won't take any time and the GF protects the summoning party member with its HP during that time...

Make sure you don't underestimate your GFs

The Battle System is anything but unbalanced...if you depend only on Limit Breaks then you're the unbalanced one...
Limit Breaks are for critical situations not for every battle...

To stay on subject I already said that I chose Griever...

ThroneofDravaris · 10-28-2006, 12:12 PM

GF attacks are obsolete pretty much from the word go, due to the nature of the junctioning system and the ease in which limit breaks can be obtained. Even without junctions to strength, Squall can cause more damage with a single renzokuken at the beginning of the game than any GF and as long as you keep him on low HP, he can use it every turn. Factor in Squall with 100 fires (an easily obtainable spell from the word go) junctioned to strength and Squall can defeat the first few bosses with one or two limit breaks. As soon as you have learned the magic refineries (all of the basic ones being easy to learn for a mere 30 AP) you gain access to a host of high level magic that boosts Squall’s attack power to insane proportions. You can easily boost Squalls attack power high enough to cause around 1000 damage per hit with Renzokuken on disk one through firaga’s and various percentage boosts, not only making the game incredibly easy from the beginning but also ensuring that Limit Breaks are more or less the only form of attacks you will ever use. The only remotely useful GFs are those that cast positive status’, and even then I never felt the need to use them because magic does a pitiful amount of damage in FFVIII, and defensive magic was never necessary because I had insanely high HP (due to refining Tents for Curagas via Siren’s Life refinery) and I killed pretty much every boss besides a few at the end in less than 3 minutes.

Squall Lionheart · 10-28-2006, 07:02 PM

Talk in private and don't change the subject...

Zeromus_X · 10-28-2006, 07:51 PM

You guys are still talking about GFs (the poor balance of the Junction system has alot to do with GFs, at any rate), so I think you guys are still on-topic.

Refining Curagas from Tents = <3.

Squall Lionheart · 10-28-2006, 08:04 PM

It's fine...
I took care of it...
There isn't any unbalance in the Battle System at all...

In any case this about the prefered GF in general...

Zeromus_X · 10-28-2006, 08:17 PM

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It's fine...
I took care of it...

There wasn't really anything to take care of. xD You should let the mods take care of things that are off-topic.

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There isn't any unbalance in the Battle System at all...

If you read ToD's post, then there shouldn't be any questions as to the horrible inbalance in FFVIII's system. Even if you like the game or it's or favorite or whatever, you are allowed to admit it has flaws.

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In any case this about the prefered GF in general...

Okay, then.

Squall Lionheart · 10-28-2006, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeromus_X

There wasn't really anything to take care of. xD You should let the mods take care of things that are off-topic.

If you read ToD's post, then there shouldn't be any questions as to the horrible inbalance in FFVIII's system. Even if you like the game or it's or favorite or whatever, you are allowed to admit it has flaws.

............
I just replied to him in private...

You can let him send it to you if you're intrested...

Zeromus_X · 10-28-2006, 09:43 PM

No, that's fine.

I don't really understand. xD

My hero Squall · 10-29-2006, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ThroneofDravaris

Even without junctions to strength, Squall can cause more damage with a single renzokuken at the beginning of the game than any GF and as long as you keep him on low HP, he can use it every turn.

Or you can use Aura and keep Squall's HP high so that you lose him in one enemy attack... Is this still about prefered GF's? I prefer Diablos, he looks the coolest and does the most damage on most enemy's (GF wise...).

Zeromus_X · 10-29-2006, 10:07 PM

I shall rank my favorites.

1.) Cerberus (Oh yes.)
2.) Doomtrain (an alternate Meltdown.)
3.) Tonberry (Call Shop...<3)
4.) Siren (Tents omg! <3)
5.) Bahamut (neat abilities.)

Slider · 10-30-2006, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by My hero Squall

Is this still about prefered GF's? I prefer Diablos, he looks the coolest and does the most damage on most enemy's (GF wise...).

Nothing wrong with what you said there, Diablos is AWESOME in EVERY WAY unless he misses. I think I read somewhere that as his level grows more, so does his gravitationnal power and the ratio of HP it damages until it becomes just like Gravija (3/4 HP). How cool is THAT!?

and ToD you need to lighten up a bit, (espcially the critisism) I thought it was only me that you always object against<and it upset me a bit> (practically you're the only one who objected against most of what I say) but just...........
Be Cool

ThroneofDravaris · 10-30-2006, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Slider

and ToD you need to lighten up a bit, (espcially the critisism) I thought it was only me that you always object against<and it upset me a bit> (practically you're the only one who objected against most of what I say) but just...........
Be Cool

jftr, I don't "target" people; if I called you on one of your posts on more than one occasioning it was because I genuinely disagreed with what was said. I will do this with anyone, and have done in the past, regardless of who they are. Although keep in mind that with the above situation it was someone disagreeing with what I said; not the other way around.

Also, I've not once received a formal complaint from the administration about my conduct on this forum, so my posts can't possibly be that brash. If you honestly think there is something wrong with my posts though you know where to send your complaints.

View Poll Results: Which GF would you junction........
Griever	7	14.29%
Bahamut	17	34.69%
Eden	9	18.37%
Odin	1	2.04%
Diablos	6	12.24%
Ifrit	1	2.04%
Phoenix	5	10.20%
Leviathan	1	2.04%
Quezacotl	0	0%
Shiva	2	4.08%
Voters: 49. You may not vote on this poll

10-07-2006, 04:20 PM	#76
Caras Cactuar Thorn Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 60	Re: Best GF ever..... I havent played this in a long time but I've always like Bahamut. __________________ Newest

10-28-2006, 07:30 AM	#77
Squall Lionheart SeeD Gunblade Specialist Join Date: Jan 2006 Age: 36 Posts: 1,578	Re: Best GF ever..... I knew some of the other FF wakos couldn't help themselves to stay away from here which is why I put GF Phoenix...and my doubts were right... How would they like it if I spoil whatever they make... Maybe GF Bahamut is the most chosen but I'm very sure he was chosen for the wrong reasons in some cases... __________________ I'll be waiting...for you...so... If you come here... You'll find me. I promise.

10-28-2006, 10:32 AM	#78
ThroneofDravaris Chocobo Jockey Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 274	Re: Best GF ever..... Bahamut. GFs are almost complete useless to use offensively (like pretty much every other non-limit attack due to FFVIII's horribly unbalanced battle system), so it really just comes down to abilities. Bahamut's Abilityx4, Strength +60%, Auto-Protect and Forbid Mag-RF pretty much make him the best choice.

10-28-2006, 11:41 AM	#79
Squall Lionheart SeeD Gunblade Specialist Join Date: Jan 2006 Age: 36 Posts: 1,578	Re: Best GF ever..... ............ Not to change the subject, but you're very wrong calling the Battle System "unbalanced"...Guardian Forces have many uses other than their abilities... In the beginning GFs are the best option to use against your enemies and cause tremendous damage to enemies...double the dealt damage in case of using the right element as well as status change in some cases... For example after reaching high levels and depending on physical attacks, some GFs are still good advantage not only for their abilities (Command, Menu, Character, Party, etc...) but for their use themselves i.e. GF Odin, Gilgamesh, Eden, Phoenix, Cerberus, Carbuncle, Doomtrain etc... Even with good physical attacks, summoning any GF can be useful... For example a highly compatible GF can deal equal or more damage than a physical attack ( Very effective against enemies with high Vitality Stat ) depending on the GF's boost...also summoning that GF won't take any time and the GF protects the summoning party member with its HP during that time... Make sure you don't underestimate your GFs The Battle System is anything but unbalanced...if you depend only on Limit Breaks then you're the unbalanced one... Limit Breaks are for critical situations not for every battle... To stay on subject I already said that I chose Griever... __________________ I'll be waiting...for you...so... If you come here... You'll find me. I promise.

10-28-2006, 12:12 PM	#80
ThroneofDravaris Chocobo Jockey Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 274	Re: Best GF ever..... GF attacks are obsolete pretty much from the word go, due to the nature of the junctioning system and the ease in which limit breaks can be obtained. Even without junctions to strength, Squall can cause more damage with a single renzokuken at the beginning of the game than any GF and as long as you keep him on low HP, he can use it every turn. Factor in Squall with 100 fires (an easily obtainable spell from the word go) junctioned to strength and Squall can defeat the first few bosses with one or two limit breaks. As soon as you have learned the magic refineries (all of the basic ones being easy to learn for a mere 30 AP) you gain access to a host of high level magic that boosts Squall’s attack power to insane proportions. You can easily boost Squalls attack power high enough to cause around 1000 damage per hit with Renzokuken on disk one through firaga’s and various percentage boosts, not only making the game incredibly easy from the beginning but also ensuring that Limit Breaks are more or less the only form of attacks you will ever use. The only remotely useful GFs are those that cast positive status’, and even then I never felt the need to use them because magic does a pitiful amount of damage in FFVIII, and defensive magic was never necessary because I had insanely high HP (due to refining Tents for Curagas via Siren’s Life refinery) and I killed pretty much every boss besides a few at the end in less than 3 minutes.

10-28-2006, 07:02 PM	#81
Squall Lionheart SeeD Gunblade Specialist Join Date: Jan 2006 Age: 36 Posts: 1,578	Re: Best GF ever..... Talk in private and don't change the subject... __________________ I'll be waiting...for you...so... If you come here... You'll find me. I promise.

10-28-2006, 07:51 PM	#82
Zeromus_X Master Summoner Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Core of the Moon (Phoenix, AZ) Age: 96 Posts: 2,931	Re: Best GF ever..... You guys are still talking about GFs (the poor balance of the Junction system has alot to do with GFs, at any rate), so I think you guys are still on-topic. Refining Curagas from Tents = <3.

10-28-2006, 08:04 PM	#83
Squall Lionheart SeeD Gunblade Specialist Join Date: Jan 2006 Age: 36 Posts: 1,578	Re: Best GF ever..... It's fine... I took care of it... There isn't any unbalance in the Battle System at all... In any case this about the prefered GF in general... __________________ I'll be waiting...for you...so... If you come here... You'll find me. I promise. Last edited by Squall Lionheart; 10-28-2006 at 08:13 PM.

10-28-2006, 09:43 PM	#86
Zeromus_X Master Summoner Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Core of the Moon (Phoenix, AZ) Age: 96 Posts: 2,931	Re: Best GF ever..... No, that's fine. I don't really understand. xD

10-29-2006, 10:07 PM	#88
Zeromus_X Master Summoner Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Core of the Moon (Phoenix, AZ) Age: 96 Posts: 2,931	Re: Best GF ever..... I shall rank my favorites. 1.) Cerberus (Oh yes.) 2.) Doomtrain (an alternate Meltdown.) 3.) Tonberry (Call Shop...<3) 4.) Siren (Tents omg! <3) 5.) Bahamut (neat abilities.)

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