Same Sex Marrige

[Seyluv]

Do you think people of the same sex should marry? explain your answer.

[Unknown Kaze]

Being a Christian, it goes against my religion, so no but I also cant stop it, so meh.

[Phoenix Flame]

Originally Posted by Unknown Kaze

Being a Christian, it goes against my religion, so no but I also cant stop it, so meh.

Uuurgh! :mad:

Nothing against you Unk. Kaze, but I get sick of people using the 'religion' card. If you don't know WHY you believe something, you're better of saying nothing at all...then again - I'm not trying to say you don't know, but stating that something is right or wrong based simply off of some standard handed down in any church doesn't tell the other person anything. Religion isn't what matters...its relationship! God created man. He created him to be in fellowship (closely dependant) on God and others "It is not good for man to be alone." came from the Creator himself.

Next, He (God) created woman from man. That is why 'Man will leave his father and mother and cling to his wife and the two will become one." It's more than just verses...we were meant to experience intimate love with ONE member of the opposite sex. Period. That is the main reason why ANY sex outside of marriage is wrong. I look at homosexuality the same way I look at opposite-sex-permisquity...as something that man made up while trying to think that he knows better and can do whatever he wants to do and doesn't need any gods to tell him what is what...just like in the garden of Eden.

I realize that my belief/understanding is what it is because I believe that God's Word is Truth, and I cannot make anyone else see that - its not up to me. So I do what I can to teach others and pray that God will reveal it to others through His Word and me.

Then there's the whole plug and a plug and a socket and a socket don't go together... But that's my laid-back answer.

[Hydra]

Dang. :O I'm all for it.

The first thing people think of when people mention "Gay Marrige" is, ''Two women? I'm all for that. But two dudes? Eww...no." But that's not all you need to look ati. The majority of people think about sex when they hear that. Love isn't just about sex. It's being happy with your loved one, and keeping your vows true.

I don't have a problem with two women getting married. (Dang! :O). I don't have a problem with two men getting married either. They say it's okay for women to get married to other women because women have been out of the closet a lot longer than guys have. That really doesn't matter.

I'd rather see a gay happy couple than a straight sad couple. If they're happy, hell, let them do what they want. It's want they want with their life, and their desires don't need to be stomped upon because we think it's nasty for two dudes or girls to be married.

Besides Texas has been doing it for a long time, people unaware. I see you Texas! :O Anyway, yeah, that's about it. They have the full rights to get married, because as long as they're happy, it doesn't matter. I doubt seeing a gay couple would piss people off to the extent of something drastic anyway.

[Unknown Kaze]

Actually I didnt have the time to type what I actually wanted to type (if that makes sense) as Ive been bogged down with Uni assignments (I havent even logged onto the site). I wanted to come back and explain why i didnt believe in the same sex mariage. Im not a follower of Religion, but a true believer in Christ and Im one of those people who also dont believe in/do something just cos someone told me to, I like to find out if its right or wrong myself before doing /believing it.

Anyways back on topic... reasoniamalive pretty much hit the nail on the head on why I as Christian dont believe in the same sex marriage. In the Bible (Genesis 2:18 for anyone who wants to look it up) it says - "And the Lord God said, it is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him." and then couple this with what Adam said when Eve was made (in Genesis 2:24) - "Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.". - it clearly tells me there that a man should leave his mother and father and marry a WOMAN, not a man. And that is why I dont believe in same sex marriage, cos God made Adam and Eve to be one, and not Adam and STEVE.


oh and to Staircase's post:

Originally Posted by Staircase

I think the bible has some things in it that aren't true, that people have passed over time. I don't think Jesus himself said that Gay marriage is unacceptable, i think it was an older Christian belief from BC when the Churches were used more as a ruling power than a church.

WTF?? thats like me saying that, as a christian, that its all right for me to drink and drive cos Jesus didnt say so. Its just common sense to know that drinking -driving aint right, and it should just be common sense that gay marriage is wrong cos its like telling God that you dont like the way he created everything and so you're going to go off and try to be god by defying his word - but thats just the way I see it.

[Staircase]

Originally Posted by Unknown Kaze

oh and to Staircase's post:



WTF??thats like me saying that, as a christian, that its all right for me to drink and drive cos Jesus didnt say so. Its just common sense to know that drinking -driving aint right, and it should just be common sense that gay marriage is wrong cos its like telling God that you dont like the way he created everything and so you're going to go off and try to be god by defying his word - but thats just the way I see it.

I hope your not mad at me for what i said. You wrote that as if you totally despised me. I'm just saying what i think.

But I defiantly see what you mean there. Nice points.

And that statement i said wasn't exactly directed as "Gay marriage is alright because Jesus never said anything about it." I said that because in your 1st post, it sounded like you only believed that because Jesus said so.

And I'm glad that you are defending your opinion instead of just letting us walk all over you.

[John Smith]

Good luck on your essay empresscrystal
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Originally Posted by Unknown Kaze

and then couple this with what Adam said when Eve was made (in Genesis 2:24) - "Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.". - it clearly tells me there that a man should leave his mother and father and marry a WOMAN, not a man. And that is why I dont believe in same sex marriage, cos God made Adam and Eve to be one, and not Adam and STEVE.

Ah, but it doesn't say "Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife AND NOT ANOTHER MAN: and they shall be one flesh".

Still, if it said, I think that it would be kinda racist.
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Originally Posted by Staircase

And that statement i said wasn't exactly directed as "Gay marriage is alright because Jesus never said anything about it." I said that because in your 1st post, it sounded like you only believed that because Jesus said so.

And I'm glad that you are defending your opinion instead of just letting us walk all over you.

Agreed

[Unknown Kaze]

Originally Posted by Staircase

I hope your not mad at me for what i said. You wrote that as if you totally despised me. I'm just saying what i think.

But I defiantly see what you mean there. Nice points.

And that statement i said wasn't exactly directed as "Gay marriage is alright because Jesus never said anything about it." I said that because in your 1st post, it sounded like you only believed that because Jesus said so.

And I'm glad that you are defending your opinion instead of just letting us walk all over you.

Im so sorry about the way it looks I was caught up in the passion of writing I dont despise you in anyway you're cool to me dude ^^

Thanx. If I had had the time, I would have posted that in my first post.


And to john Smith's comment, if you look at the last part of Genesis 2:18, it says "I will make him AN help meet for him" AN is singular, not plural, so it is only two people, male and female allowed in the relationship.

And finally - racist, lol ,how so?

[John Smith]

Yeah, they're people after all and they have the same rights as everyone else. They're people, not rocks or trees or any of thar stuff. I think they should be able to marry.

To the people that think otherwise, why shouldn't gays marry?

[Seyluv]

Yeah, I agree, but can you guys get more in detail for me. This is a essay for me. I not asking for you guys to write it for me, but all i need is a few good reasons why or why not.

[richboywonder]

so you want us to help you on your essay

[Zeromus_X]

I don't really care, no. This is the twenty-first century and everything.

I apologize for not providing too much info other than my indifference, but you should probably state that you want information for an essay in your first post, rather than giving the impression that this is another Serious Discussion thread.

[John Smith]

As Leónidas Hegenberg (Philosopher) (I don't know his name translation into english, sorry) said, and I quote, "While he beleives, man does not need to think".

With this, being it directed to Unknown Kaze, I mean that you believe in what you're told, not on what you believe in. Do you know what autonomy is? Believing in what you're told is not having autonomy, but being automated (Automated: Person that does what other people tell him/her what to do; not thinking by thyself)

[Spec Highwind]

Zeromus' opinion = My oppinion

[Slider]

That was a harsh reason!!!
I mean COME ON, you even agree with Kaze
as for me, I refuse because I think it's useless for same sex, and that's aside from any religious influence, that's my personnal oppinion
(I also know it's merely a matter of time before ToD finds out I said something and comes to disagree )