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Old 06-23-2005, 03:06 PM   #1
 
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Supreme Court Rules Cities May Seize Homes

By HOPE YEN
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Thursday, June 23, 2005; 1:12 PM

WASHINGTON -- A divided Supreme Court ruled Thursday that local governments may seize people's homes and businesses against their will for private development in a decision anxiously awaited in communities where economic growth often is at war with individual property rights.

The 5-4 ruling _ assailed by dissenting Justice Sandra Day O'Connor as handing "disproportionate influence and power" to the well-heeled in America _ was a defeat for Connecticut residents whose homes are slated for destruction to make room for an office complex. They had argued that cities have no right to take their land except for projects with a clear public use, such as roads or schools, or to revitalize blighted areas.


As a result, cities now have wide power to bulldoze residences for projects such as shopping malls and hotel complexes in order to generate tax revenue.

The case was one of six resolved by justices on Thursday. Among those still pending for the court, which next meets on Monday, is one testing the constitutionality of displaying the Ten Commands on government property.

Writing for the court's majority in Thursday's ruling, Justice John Paul Stevens said local officials, not federal judges, know best in deciding whether a development project will benefit the community. States are within their rights to pass additional laws restricting condemnations if residents are overly burdened, he said.

"The city has carefully formulated an economic development plan that it believes will provide appreciable benefits to the community, including _ but by no means limited to _ new jobs and increased tax revenue," Stevens wrote.

Stevens was joined in his opinion by other members of the court's liberal wing _ David H. Souter, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen G. Breyer. The bloc typically has favored greater deference to cities, which historically have used the takings power for urban renewal projects that benefit the lower and middle class.

They were joined by Reagan appointee Justice Anthony Kennedy in rejecting the conservative principle of individual property rights. Critics had feared that would allow a small group of homeowners to stymie rebuilding efforts that benefit the city through added jobs and more tax revenue for social programs.

"It is not for the courts to oversee the choice of the boundary line nor to sit in review on the size of a particular project area," Stevens wrote.

O'Connor argued that cities should not have unlimited authority to uproot families, even if they are provided compensation, simply to accommodate wealthy developers.

"Any property may now be taken for the benefit of another private party, but the fallout from this decision will not be random," she wrote. "The beneficiaries are likely to be those citizens with disproportionate influence and power in the political process, including large corporations and development firms."

Connecticut residents involved in the lawsuit expressed dismay and pledged to keep fighting.

"It's a little shocking to believe you can lose your home in this country," said resident Bill Von Winkle, who said he would refuse to leave his home, even if bulldozers showed up. "I won't be going anywhere. Not my house. This is definitely not the last word."

Scott Bullock, an attorney for the Institute for Justice representing the families, added: "A narrow majority of the court simply got the law wrong today and our Constitution and country will suffer as a result."

At issue was the scope of the Fifth Amendment, which allows governments to take private property through eminent domain if the land is for "public use."

Susette Kelo and several other homeowners in a working-class neighborhood in New London, Conn., filed suit after city officials announced plans to raze their homes for a riverfront hotel, health club and offices.

New London officials countered that the private development plans served a public purpose of boosting economic growth that outweighed the homeowners' property rights, even if the area wasn't blighted.

Connecticut state Rep. Ernest Hewett, D-New London, a former mayor and city council member who voted in favor of eminent domain, said the decision "means a lot for New London's future."

The lower courts had been divided on the issue, with many allowing a taking only if it eliminates blight.

Nationwide, more than 10,000 properties were threatened or condemned in recent years, according to the Institute for Justice, a Washington public interest law firm representing the New London homeowners.

New London, a town of less than 26,000, once was a center of the whaling industry and later became a manufacturing hub. More recently the city has suffered the kind of economic woes afflicting urban areas across the country, with losses of residents and jobs.

City officials envision a commercial development that would attract tourists to the Thames riverfront, complementing an adjoining Pfizer Corp. research center and a proposed Coast Guard museum.

New London was backed in its appeal by the National League of Cities, which argued that a city's eminent domain power was critical to spurring urban renewal with development projects such Baltimore's Inner Harbor and Kansas City's Kansas Speedway.

Under the ruling, residents still will be entitled to "just compensation" for their homes as provided under the Fifth Amendment. However, Kelo and the other homeowners had refused to move at any price, calling it an unjustified taking of their property.
I'm sorry but this is Bulls**t. Of couse it's not against the fifth amendment, it's against the fourth though.

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The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
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Re: The US government owns you!!!

seize homes wtf
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Old 06-24-2005, 04:19 PM   #3
 
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Re: The US government owns you!!!

There is a quote as food for thought:

"A government big enough to give you anything you want is strong enough to take everything you have." ~ Thomas Jefferson
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NOoooooooooooooooooooooooo!
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Old 06-25-2005, 06:33 PM   #5
 
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Re: The US government owns you!!!

This is disgusting and I hope the residents concerned fight it all the way. I can understand the government taking land for needed roads and similar public infrustructure but allowing governments to take peoples homes and turn the land over to private developers for stuff that only benefits the rich stinks.

This is an outsiders view but it seems to me that the gap between rich and poor in the US is getting wider and wider every day and the poor are getting trampled on left right and centre. Do you have to be rich in the US to have any rights these days?
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Old 06-29-2005, 10:50 AM   #6
 
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Re: The US government owns you!!!

Here's the first test I guess...

Thinking about this a little more, this really isn't so bad. Now, if I wanted, I could buy Detroit.
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Re: The US government owns you!!!

Sorry to double post but I reeeallly like that article.
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Re: The US government owns you!!!

Yes I do too .

I read that soon after you posted it, just forgot to comment. I hope that really happens to all the idiots responsible for that awful "law". Stealing peoples homes just because rich developers and town governments can make money out of it for themselves is just pure low.
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Politics= complicated problems. Politicians= most of the time, the wrong people to handle the problems. Also, "If I were to choose between having a government and no newspaper, and no government with a newspaper, I would prefer the latter" (Thomas Jefferson).
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Re: The US government owns you!!!

hehe 1st of all....there is something wrong with the name of the post...COZ THE US GOV. DOESN'T OWN ME and 2nd....have you seen the leader of my country...the dude looks like Harry Potter for crying out loud ! you think the Us government is bad ? you should come to Holland....1/3 of the ppl here is Turkish or Marrokan....not that I don't like them but....Why doesn't the government kick all the illegals out....they are the one's stealing all sorts of things....
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and 2nd....have you seen the leader of my country...the dude looks like Harry Potter for crying out loud ! you think the Us government is bad ? you should come to Holland....1/3 of the ppl here is Turkish or Marrokan....not that I don't like them but....Why doesn't the government kick all the illegals out....they are the one's stealing all sorts of things....
Sorry for my ignorance, but who's the leader of Holland? Also, we have enough problems with our own people (any kind of American) without other people or problems to make it worse. You should see our national debt, it's something in the ten trillions, I think. That's a few hundred times more than the value of all the property in America...
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nobody owns me(according to the title)
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Read the thread and make a proper on-topic reply if you're going to post at all in the Serious Discussion forum. CLOSED.
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