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Old 10-30-2006, 07:46 PM   #16
 
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I said REASOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON!!!!!!
I also see the diffrence, but I still think REASONIMALIVE was harsh on Kaze althought they support the same oppinion, besides it's a good thing to follow your religion!
Oh, you were talking to reasonimalive?

I thought you were talking to me.

I'll leave that discussion for you 2 then
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Being a Christian, it goes against my religion, so no but I also cant stop it, so meh.
He could at least develop why he goes by his religion.

I'm a Christian too, but I have my opinion and he certainly has an opinion of his onw, even if it's not the same as the one I said. Not everyone thinks like oneanother. It would be too messy
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Re: Same Sex Marrige

I get where you are coming from Slider. However, if you simply say "my religion says this" or "my religion tells me to do this," you might as well say "Well, my priest molested those kids...so......." Um,.. you get my point. Blindly following your religion (whatever it may be) without asking why I believe this or that doesn't help the other person reason. It may even anger the other person and they may percieve that person as a "bible thumper" or 'Jesus freak.' I like the latter.

But in the end, I'm certainly didn't mean to be rude - and if Kaze felt I was...well, he can say so. I used to be Baptist...but the silly, sometimes stupid rules that they made up as they went along drove me nuts - and away from the church. I've since found a non-denominational church. So, yeah! That's cool.
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Thanks guys uyou all have been of great help to me. As soon as I am done I will tell you what I had writen in my essay. Anyway I didn't post this thread just as a boose for my essay. I really wanted toi bring out this issus to you all.
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Old 10-30-2006, 10:23 PM   #19
 
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No prob empress...how many pages does your essay have to be?
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One page, which is easy. I have done it before last year and I really didn't feel like doing it again. Last year it only took me less then a hour to write and back then it was three pages. I can write a 30 page if i had to. Of couse to do that it would take me a while. Anyway thanks again.
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Re: Same Sex Marrige

Actually I didnt have the time to type what I actually wanted to type (if that makes sense) as Ive been bogged down with Uni assignments (I havent even logged onto the site). I wanted to come back and explain why i didnt believe in the same sex mariage. Im not a follower of Religion, but a true believer in Christ and Im one of those people who also dont believe in/do something just cos someone told me to, I like to find out if its right or wrong myself before doing /believing it.

Anyways back on topic... reasoniamalive pretty much hit the nail on the head on why I as Christian dont believe in the same sex marriage. In the Bible (Genesis 2:18 for anyone who wants to look it up) it says - "And the Lord God said, it is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him." and then couple this with what Adam said when Eve was made (in Genesis 2:24) - "Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.". - it clearly tells me there that a man should leave his mother and father and marry a WOMAN, not a man. And that is why I dont believe in same sex marriage, cos God made Adam and Eve to be one, and not Adam and STEVE.


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I think the bible has some things in it that aren't true, that people have passed over time. I don't think Jesus himself said that Gay marriage is unacceptable, i think it was an older Christian belief from BC when the Churches were used more as a ruling power than a church.
WTF?? thats like me saying that, as a christian, that its all right for me to drink and drive cos Jesus didnt say so. Its just common sense to know that drinking -driving aint right, and it should just be common sense that gay marriage is wrong cos its like telling God that you dont like the way he created everything and so you're going to go off and try to be god by defying his word - but thats just the way I see it.
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WTF??thats like me saying that, as a christian, that its all right for me to drink and drive cos Jesus didnt say so. Its just common sense to know that drinking -driving aint right, and it should just be common sense that gay marriage is wrong cos its like telling God that you dont like the way he created everything and so you're going to go off and try to be god by defying his word - but thats just the way I see it.
I hope your not mad at me for what i said. You wrote that as if you totally despised me. I'm just saying what i think.

But I defiantly see what you mean there. Nice points.

And that statement i said wasn't exactly directed as "Gay marriage is alright because Jesus never said anything about it." I said that because in your 1st post, it sounded like you only believed that because Jesus said so.

And I'm glad that you are defending your opinion instead of just letting us walk all over you.
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Good luck on your essay empresscrystal
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and then couple this with what Adam said when Eve was made (in Genesis 2:24) - "Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.". - it clearly tells me there that a man should leave his mother and father and marry a WOMAN, not a man. And that is why I dont believe in same sex marriage, cos God made Adam and Eve to be one, and not Adam and STEVE.
Ah, but it doesn't say "Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife AND NOT ANOTHER MAN: and they shall be one flesh".

Still, if it said, I think that it would be kinda racist.
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And that statement i said wasn't exactly directed as "Gay marriage is alright because Jesus never said anything about it." I said that because in your 1st post, it sounded like you only believed that because Jesus said so.

And I'm glad that you are defending your opinion instead of just letting us walk all over you.
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Wow you all are really into this topic.
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I hope your not mad at me for what i said. You wrote that as if you totally despised me. I'm just saying what i think.

But I defiantly see what you mean there. Nice points.

And that statement i said wasn't exactly directed as "Gay marriage is alright because Jesus never said anything about it." I said that because in your 1st post, it sounded like you only believed that because Jesus said so.

And I'm glad that you are defending your opinion instead of just letting us walk all over you.

Im so sorry about the way it looks I was caught up in the passion of writing I dont despise you in anyway you're cool to me dude ^^

Thanx. If I had had the time, I would have posted that in my first post.


And to john Smith's comment, if you look at the last part of Genesis 2:18, it says "I will make him AN help meet for him" AN is singular, not plural, so it is only two people, male and female allowed in the relationship.

And finally - racist, lol ,how so?
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And to john Smith's comment, if you look at the last part of Genesis 2:18, it says "I will make him AN help meet for him" AN is singular, not plural, so it is only two people, male and female allowed in the relationship.
I don't understand :S

Racist is not what I meant, but I can't find the right word for it ^_^''
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Old 11-01-2006, 09:44 AM   #27
 
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Re: Same Sex Marrige

For me, I see no good reason why thay souldn't be able to marry. They are going to live together wether you let them marry or not.

I do not belive in the bible so nothing it says about stuff like that matters to me.

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I don't understand :S

Racist is not what I meant, but I can't find the right word for it ^_^''

Prejudice : an adverse judgment or opinion formed beforehand or without knowledge or examination of the facts. (hating people because of beliefs, or background)

Racist : person with a prejudiced belief that one race is superior to others (hating people because of their race or color)

You meant prejudiced instead of racist.
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I really don't see the problem with them getting married. I mean we all for many years have always been fighting for rights. And yet people are trying to take away the right to marry from anyone who is gay.
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The great problem of it is the children. Imagine yourself telling your friends that your parents are gay...

about they getting married... no oppinion
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