What is hotter? Heaven or Hell?

~Hidan~ · 03-20-2005, 02:13 AM

Well I want everyone to tell me what they think, I'll set my theory down later.

ShadowHeart · 03-20-2005, 05:18 AM

No idea, but let me add this instead: Every religious person believes that everyone who doesn't follow their religion will go to hell. Since noone believes in more than one religion (and some none, including me) that means *everyone* will go to hell

Gumdrop · 03-20-2005, 12:57 PM

hell I guess....

Spiff · 03-20-2005, 03:24 PM

Hell really didn't have flames and fire until Daunte's Inferno, I believe it was thought to be made of ice.

So I would say heaven because it's warm.

Shadowheart, There's really only two religions. Islam, Judism, and Christianity believe in the same god(just different ways to reach IE not blowing people up

), and Hiduism and buddhism believes in reincarnation.

**Shaggy** · 03-20-2005, 03:37 PM

Here we go with religion..

Don't let me get started with this stuff!

They are both the same temp.

Mong00se · 03-26-2005, 12:30 AM

Because I don't believe in religion, because I think it's just guidelines for people who can't make up their own morals (no offense to any church goers), I'm going to say hell, just based on the movie "Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey." Hell looked like a pretty smokin place.

**Shaggy** · 03-26-2005, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mong00se

Because I don't believe in religion, because I think it's just guidelines for people who can't make up their own morals (no offense to any church goers).

I agree with you Mong00se!

Spiff · 03-26-2005, 05:34 PM

I can't disagree with that statement because that's what religion is, religion brings order to chaos. IMO, humans wouldn't be where they are today without it, besides bringing morals to humanity religion also brings a sense of purpose.

ShadowHeart · 03-26-2005, 07:15 PM

And religion also brings death and wars, when ppl have different beliefs and become fanatics.

**Shaggy** · 03-26-2005, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadowheart

And religion also brings death and wars, when ppl have different beliefs and become fanatics.

Bingo bango. I can't fathum how people kill each other on what they believe in, when they have never really seen it.

FFnut · 03-26-2005, 08:34 PM

Eh. That's not JUST religion. I just learned about the Rose War in Social Studies a few days ago. A guy with a crest of a white rose was in a war with a guy whose family crest was a red rose. My teacher quoted it as "The only war where men would die over the color of a rose without knowing what it stood for." (Incidentally, this war was the basis of the majority of the storyline in FFT; The "Lion War" between Larg and Goltana because both of their family crests had different colored lions on them, for instance, and the way that King Richard III was king because he was the regent over the true rulers until they were eighteen, much like Larg had regency over two-year-old Prince Orinas.) Basically, people will die for whatever they're taught. Most people use religion as a basis of their life - when that is threatened, they'll die for it.

Are you all telling me you wouldn't take a bullet to save an FF game?

Spiff · 03-27-2005, 02:22 PM

People will die for what they believe in because of their ego. They can't stand being told they're wrong.

Totorosama · 10-25-2005, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Spiff

Shadowheart, There's really only two religions.

Not really...how about the native religions of Africa, America, South America, etc...

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Originally Posted by Shadowheart

And religion also brings death and wars, when ppl have different beliefs and become fanatics.

Agreed. We don't really need religion, I think, just the morals. I believe in the people to destroy themselves and everyone else, or to help others bring peace. With entropy around, I don't think that we're going to have some kind of perfect world someday. After all, there are all these black holes sucking up all matter out there, and one day, all matter is going to be crushed in a gigantic black hole and explode again, creating a new universe all over. I got that from science.

~Hidan~ · 10-25-2005, 07:44 PM

Acording to a friend of mine in that was taking physics. Heaven is suposedly like 20x hotted then hell due to the 100x brighterthen earth part of the bible, and that hell is only as hot as the meltingpoint of brimstone.

Spiff · 10-26-2005, 04:14 PM

With religon comes greed, power, and many other sins that the bible says are bad. You really don't have to go to church or follow a religon, if you believe you will be saved. Also, I haven't confirmed this yet but I heard that there are passages in the bible that state that religon is the worse thing humans can create because they start to elvate themselves above god.

As to heaven being hotter than hell, maybe that's why when you run into spirits the room you're in becomes cold.

But I don't like spirits can feel heat anyways.

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Not really...how about the native religions of Africa, America, South America, etc...

Ok, you got me. I forgot pagan religons.

03-20-2005, 02:13 AM	#1
~Hidan~ Highwind Pilot Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: The Clouds above Midgar Age: 40 Posts: 543	What is hotter? Heaven or Hell? Well I want everyone to tell me what they think, I'll set my theory down later. __________________ Invent a new time, a new life, a new reason to fight.

03-20-2005, 05:18 AM	#2
ShadowHeart Master Summoner Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Sweden Age: 41 Posts: 1,730	No idea, but let me add this instead: Every religious person believes that everyone who doesn't follow their religion will go to hell. Since noone believes in more than one religion (and some none, including me) that means everyone will go to hell __________________ And then there was silence Just a voice from the other world Like a leaf in any icy world Memories will fade

03-20-2005, 03:24 PM	#4
Spiff Kung-Fu Fighter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Detroit Age: 40 Posts: 1,026	Hell really didn't have flames and fire until Daunte's Inferno, I believe it was thought to be made of ice. So I would say heaven because it's warm. Shadowheart, There's really only two religions. Islam, Judism, and Christianity believe in the same god(just different ways to reach IE not blowing people up ), and Hiduism and buddhism believes in reincarnation. Last edited by Spiff; 03-20-2005 at 03:34 PM.

03-26-2005, 07:15 PM	#9
ShadowHeart Master Summoner Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Sweden Age: 41 Posts: 1,730	And religion also brings death and wars, when ppl have different beliefs and become fanatics. __________________ And then there was silence Just a voice from the other world Like a leaf in any icy world Memories will fade

03-26-2005, 08:34 PM	#11
FFnut Master Thief Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The space between dimensions... kinda like where Gilgamesh ends up in FF5. Age: 34 Posts: 436	Eh. That's not JUST religion. I just learned about the Rose War in Social Studies a few days ago. A guy with a crest of a white rose was in a war with a guy whose family crest was a red rose. My teacher quoted it as "The only war where men would die over the color of a rose without knowing what it stood for." (Incidentally, this war was the basis of the majority of the storyline in FFT; The "Lion War" between Larg and Goltana because both of their family crests had different colored lions on them, for instance, and the way that King Richard III was king because he was the regent over the true rulers until they were eighteen, much like Larg had regency over two-year-old Prince Orinas.) Basically, people will die for whatever they're taught. Most people use religion as a basis of their life - when that is threatened, they'll die for it. Are you all telling me you wouldn't take a bullet to save an FF game? __________________ I've been FFnut since before I'd even heard of FFnet, so don't accuse me of stealing anything. "Only an egotistical bastard would sig himself." ~ FFnut That is not dead which can eternal lie And with strange aeons even death may die. Commander Of The Platinum Dragons Official Ex-Member

03-20-2005, 12:57 PM	#3
Gumdrop Highwind Pilot Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: England Age: 37 Posts: 697	hell I guess....

03-20-2005, 03:37 PM	#5
Shaggy Administrator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Behind the wheel of FFNET.NET Age: 47 Posts: 677	Here we go with religion.. Don't let me get started with this stuff! They are both the same temp.

03-26-2005, 12:30 AM	#6
Mong00se Moogle Farmer Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 111	Because I don't believe in religion, because I think it's just guidelines for people who can't make up their own morals (no offense to any church goers), I'm going to say hell, just based on the movie "Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey." Hell looked like a pretty smokin place.

03-26-2005, 05:34 PM	#8
Spiff Kung-Fu Fighter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Detroit Age: 40 Posts: 1,026	I can't disagree with that statement because that's what religion is, religion brings order to chaos. IMO, humans wouldn't be where they are today without it, besides bringing morals to humanity religion also brings a sense of purpose.

03-27-2005, 02:22 PM	#12
Spiff Kung-Fu Fighter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Detroit Age: 40 Posts: 1,026	People will die for what they believe in because of their ego. They can't stand being told they're wrong.

10-25-2005, 07:44 PM	#14
~Hidan~ Highwind Pilot Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: The Clouds above Midgar Age: 40 Posts: 543	Re: What is hotter? Heaven or Hell? Acording to a friend of mine in that was taking physics. Heaven is suposedly like 20x hotted then hell due to the 100x brighterthen earth part of the bible, and that hell is only as hot as the meltingpoint of brimstone. __________________ Invent a new time, a new life, a new reason to fight.

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