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Old 10-20-2005, 06:45 PM   #1
 
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Symbolism in FFIX

Just post here if you find more, because a lot of people have found some so far.
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Old 10-20-2005, 06:49 PM   #2
 
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Re: Symbolism in FFIX

Beatrix being blind has been mentioned already.
Then there's obvious stuff like doves representing freedom.
As much as I love FFIX it's more of a spoonfed story. There's not much to dig at. If you want symbolism, look at FFVII. It's full of it.

Also, play the game I'm making ^^. Also full of symbolism (I'm warning you, it's hard to get unless you think)
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Old 10-20-2005, 08:34 PM   #3
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Re: Symbolism in FFIX

although it isnt really symbolism, ff9 is full to the brim with past ff references. (i talked about the pluto knights) like, when youre on the tantalus ship, on the wall is the buster sword, and zidane says,"i used to know a guy with spiky hair who had a sword like this" or something.

also, in treno's auction house, if you but dorgas artifact and unne's mirror, and go play the black mage villages record player, you can hear a tune from ff3.(dorga and unne are characters in ff3.)

and there are countless others...of course, this game doesnt have as much sybolism as 7 and 8, per se, but has alot of ff references.

...and....sourdough bread is good.
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Re: Symbolism in FFIX

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although it isnt really symbolism, ff9 is full to the brim with past ff references. (i talked about the pluto knights) like, when youre on the tantalus ship, on the wall is the buster sword, and zidane says,"i used to know a guy with spiky hair who had a sword like this"

correct quote.....wrong location. he actually sees it in the shop in lindblum (weapon shop check it out ) they have "good" weapons............cough cough STEINER cough cough...........

some sybological things like the obvious thing of memories (hello a place called MEMORIA!!) also theres things about terra and stuff (linking to creation of humans ) another thing i saw was the bit with the whole edilon wall thing........cave paintings. maybe.........EDILONS EXIST?!?!?!?!?!...........yer i no......

one thing i did notice though was the link from ff9 to ff5 (the lifa tree!!!) ff5 the source of all bad things is tht tree (Ex-death with extra grow) and then the lifa tree the source of mist (which creates black mages and binds terra to gaia another evil thing ) lots of evil. the kuja taking everyone with him thing makes sense.................fear of death after all is natural....
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Re: Symbolism in FFIX

I might as well post a list of some references:
*Some spoilers*


1. The name "Garland" is a reference to FF1's Garland.
2. The buster sword quote. Although, I can't seem to see the Buster sword on the wall.
3. "Kains lance" is a reference to FFIV's Kain.
4. The 4 chaos guardians are references to FFI's guardians.
5. The Namingway card is a reference to FFIV's "Namingway" who also renames your characters.
6. The dwarves greeting "Rally-ho" is a mis-translation of FFIV's "Lali-ho"
7. Kuja's "Flare-star" attack is also used by Atma in FFVI.
8. FFIX's best weapon "Ultima-Weapon" is a mis-translation of "Atma-weapon". Zidanes best weapon was orginally meant to be named "Atma-weapon" (There was also a awesome weapon in FFVI called Atma-weapon.)
9. Cid's last name "Fabool" is a reference to a town called "Fabul" in FFIV.
10. Moogles are a reference to the first game they were in, FFIII.
11. The biggest reference of them all, Terra, she was a main character in FFVI.

There are tons more (over 100 in all) but I can't post them all.
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Re: Symbolism in FFIX

Haha, I've discovered a new one, I thought I've known all the obvious ones, but:

When In Black Mage Village, there's a baby Chocobo called Bobby Corwen.

Zidane: "Why do they keep calling it by it's full name?"

BOBBY CORWEN (FFIX) - BOCO (FFV)

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Re: Symbolism in FFIX

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although it isnt really symbolism, ff9 is full to the brim with past ff references. (i talked about the pluto knights) like, when youre on the tantalus ship, on the wall is the buster sword, and zidane says,"i used to know a guy with spiky hair who had a sword like this" or something.

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You're wrong it's in the weapon shop in Linblum when Zidane says that and another reference is Eiko's background like Rydia from IV Eiko's village of summoners were destroyed and she became the last existence from her village other than Garnet and also Rydia and eiko are both children well until Rydia was sent to the land of summoning.
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Re: Symbolism in FFIX

Sourdough bread? Huh? Also, where's this site of your's Zerlina? And where have you been? Where has everyone been? Fewer people have been on lately. School?
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Old 10-21-2005, 12:33 AM   #9
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Sourdough bread? Huh? Also, where's this site of your's Zerlina? And where have you been? Where has everyone been? Fewer people have been on lately. School?
i was just messing around ^^;; (but i really do love sourdough bread...)

isnt her site called "the crystal" or something? i think its an ff9 site...

does it really seem like that? i go on every day...huh... although, most of the posts i check on are just the games, and not a real discussion, so i move on to the next site on my priority list...
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Re: Symbolism in FFIX

It's just that it's only the same people coming on, and not very many. Should this thread be moved?
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Old 10-29-2005, 12:18 PM   #11
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Re: Symbolism in FFIX

i dont think it should be moved. ( its in the ff9 forum, isnt it ? )

and, ive found another thing to tell everyone.

in the play at the end of the game, one of zidane's lines is "no cloud nor squall will ever separate us" or something like that.

cloud and squall are the main characters of the other two ps1 ffs, ff7 and 8.

so maybe square is saying that they think ff9 is better than those two? i dont know about that, but i found that very interesting.
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Re: Symbolism in FFIX

Cool. Also, it's really odd how Gaia and Terra are different worlds, as they both mean "earth." Also, Daguerro was founded by an inventor, and there was a person called Louis Jacques Mandé Daguerre who was a French inventor. Alexandria was near a shore in the game, as is in real life. Treno, a place with lots of money, is similar to "Reno," don't you think? I also think that the place name "Conde Petie" refers to the smallness of the people there, who are dwarves. After all they are "petite," hence the "petie" part. Vivi is the prefix for life, and it is odd that he is the one who quotes "How do you prove that we exist? Maybe we don’t exist…" which is to mean that he is doubting whether we live or not, and if there was a purpose to our "life." Anyways, that's enough for now. More research...
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Re: Symbolism in FFIX

square must really think these out when they make the ff games...well the 10- ones anyway...

also, freya was a goddess in some old mythology...ill try and find which one...but she was an anachronism card!

ok, freya was a war and love goddess(in norse mythology), so basically aphrodite with a temper but her chariot was driven by a pair of giant kitties!!=3

eh...go to wikipedia and look up "freya"? i dont know the exact address...

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Re: Symbolism in FFIX

FFIX wasn't really supposed to be a numbered FF... (It was going to be a shrine-like game, that's why there are so many past FF references)
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FFIX wasn't really supposed to be a numbered FF... (It was going to be a shrine-like game, that's why there are so many past FF references)
Where you hear this from buddy?
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