is it possible? vincent & sephy?

Marius · 06-12-2007, 04:41 PM

my hubby D.R and i were recently debating.is there a possibilty that vincent could actually be sephiroth's father? i kno it's a bit over the top but think of the timing? lucrecia had a thing with vincent b4 hojo, when vincent was still a turk himself. plus in advent children vincent and sephy's looks are a tad bit similar. and if u check out their noses it's gets even more uncanny. well thats at least what i think anyway.so if u can help me out here maybe me and D.R can settle this debate with the help from some REAL GOOD FF FANS. so please share ur input on this . ;res

Darkreno · 06-12-2007, 05:33 PM

marius, hon ...how do we come up with this stuff. look hojo is sephiroth's father not vincent there's just no way. that would mean lucrecia kicked it with vincent b4 she married hojo. plus that would've made seph, a lot older don u think? and wouldn't seph have figured it out himself?

ShadowHeart · 06-12-2007, 05:38 PM

Well, there is always the possibility I suppose. Both Vincent and Hojo clearly state in the game that Hojo is Sephiroth's father, but that's the only "proof". As far as anyone is concerned, they could both be lying. I seriously doubt the script writers had it in mind though.. there would be hints or facts pointing towards it if they did. It is pretty far fetched IMO.

dappa · 06-12-2007, 06:16 PM

I suppose some artificial insemination could've happenend.

Didn't vincent get shot then put in the coffin and then hojo carried on with his "experiment"

Darkreno · 06-12-2007, 07:11 PM

yeah thats what i'm trying to tell her.vincent didn't do it. there was no hit n run marius lol. but i guess what baffles marius is seph's age.it's not really detailed so she's on the investigating scene. vincent and seph look around the same age but we all kno thats not true cuz the whole lucrecia thing. so yes vincent is older than seph but that shouldn't play a part in him being seph's pop ya kno.

dappa · 06-12-2007, 07:26 PM

Wasn't vincent left in the shinra mansion for 32yrs?

Marius · 06-12-2007, 07:30 PM

oh crudd D.R YOUR 32!!! reasons right ur the devil lol.(sorry off topic) but to remain on i must ask when did lucrecia have her baby? so seph whould be around that age right?

Darkreno · 06-12-2007, 07:42 PM

check it out hon, let me put some more focus 4 u. lucrecia was insiminated with seph. by hojo which gives fact that she's not really seph's mom. genetically it's genova which means hojo did it to a cup. dang i can't believe u got me doing this like this lol. and back on subject! he gave his and genova's samples to lucrecia. hojo was a sick and lonely dude. oh yeah marius we already kno i may b the devil lol.

Marius · 06-12-2007, 07:54 PM

funny D.R ok all that aside there's just too many gaps in the whole thing. see like lets say seph is 32 thats supports my theory somewhat cuz it takes nine months to have a baby. so maybe earlier down when kno one was on to them lucrecia and vincent did their thing. u kno. yes we kno genovas genes were infused to seph but not really how. see so was it b4 or after he was born. lucrecia was a striking blonde herself right, not just genova. plus since lucrecia died shortly after having seph could only mean hojo may have set her up to die so that he can manipulate seph into thinking the worst.

Darkreno · 06-12-2007, 09:54 PM

hmmm? perhaps maybe we were not meant to go there. i mean ok even if it were true i mean wouldn't vincent himself kno the truth. maybe the Turks kno the truth after all he was one of them. hmmm? see now u got me thinking. not fair marius. there's just simply no way vincent could be seph's dad.

clief101_ · 06-13-2007, 12:58 AM

hojo is sephy's dad...although nowhere does it state the ages of any of the characters invloved in the incident, you can kinda guess. when cloud was a young boy, sephy was already the number 1 SOLDIER, so by the time you cloud is 21 (game age), sephy would have to be the age cloud to barrets, and because vincent was in the shinra mansion for 32 yrs, that would make sephy 32 yrs old, because vincent was locked in ther when sephy was born (from what i gathered). also, vincent was lucrecias lover, but hojo and vincent clearly state that sephy is hojo's son, and i think hojo would've tested that to make sure he wasnt wrong

Zeromus_X · 06-13-2007, 02:04 AM

I've heard this rumor before, and all I can really say is that there just isn't any evidence that Sephiroth is Vincent's father.

Marius · 06-13-2007, 03:57 AM

yep ur right on that one. but i was more or less hoping vincent was seph's dad somewhat u kno perhaps there was a lil more scandal on the story than we all originally thought thats all.

Zeromus_X · 06-13-2007, 06:03 AM

Oh, and moved to Final Fantasy VII forum. o_O Please place threads in their proper sections in the future.

Marius · 06-13-2007, 05:15 PM

ok sorry . n-e hoo isn't seph older than cloud and the others anyway? didn't cloud like admired seph from afar growing up? before he got mixed up with all that zack stuff? which means seph is older right.hmmm

06-12-2007, 04:41 PM	#1
Marius Highwind Captain Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: sometimes heaven Age: 45 Posts: 1,193	is it possible? vincent & sephy? my hubby D.R and i were recently debating.is there a possibilty that vincent could actually be sephiroth's father? i kno it's a bit over the top but think of the timing? lucrecia had a thing with vincent b4 hojo, when vincent was still a turk himself. plus in advent children vincent and sephy's looks are a tad bit similar. and if u check out their noses it's gets even more uncanny. well thats at least what i think anyway.so if u can help me out here maybe me and D.R can settle this debate with the help from some REAL GOOD FF FANS. so please share ur input on this . ;res __________________

06-12-2007, 05:33 PM	#2
Darkreno Gunblade Expert Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: mostly hell Age: 48 Posts: 893	Re: is it possible? vincent & sephy? marius, hon ...how do we come up with this stuff. look hojo is sephiroth's father not vincent there's just no way. that would mean lucrecia kicked it with vincent b4 she married hojo. plus that would've made seph, a lot older don u think? and wouldn't seph have figured it out himself?

06-12-2007, 05:38 PM	#3
ShadowHeart Master Summoner Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Sweden Age: 41 Posts: 1,730	Re: is it possible? vincent & sephy? Well, there is always the possibility I suppose. Both Vincent and Hojo clearly state in the game that Hojo is Sephiroth's father, but that's the only "proof". As far as anyone is concerned, they could both be lying. I seriously doubt the script writers had it in mind though.. there would be hints or facts pointing towards it if they did. It is pretty far fetched IMO. __________________ And then there was silence Just a voice from the other world Like a leaf in any icy world Memories will fade

06-12-2007, 06:16 PM	#4
dappa Master Summoner Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Zanarkand Ruins (ok I live in the UK) Age: 46 Posts: 1,778	Re: is it possible? vincent & sephy? I suppose some artificial insemination could've happenend. Didn't vincent get shot then put in the coffin and then hojo carried on with his "experiment" __________________ The Fantasy is never truly final

06-12-2007, 07:11 PM	#5
Darkreno Gunblade Expert Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: mostly hell Age: 48 Posts: 893	Re: is it possible? vincent & sephy? yeah thats what i'm trying to tell her.vincent didn't do it. there was no hit n run marius lol. but i guess what baffles marius is seph's age.it's not really detailed so she's on the investigating scene. vincent and seph look around the same age but we all kno thats not true cuz the whole lucrecia thing. so yes vincent is older than seph but that shouldn't play a part in him being seph's pop ya kno.

06-12-2007, 07:26 PM	#6
dappa Master Summoner Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Zanarkand Ruins (ok I live in the UK) Age: 46 Posts: 1,778	Re: is it possible? vincent & sephy? Wasn't vincent left in the shinra mansion for 32yrs? __________________ The Fantasy is never truly final

06-12-2007, 07:30 PM	#7
Marius Highwind Captain Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: sometimes heaven Age: 45 Posts: 1,193	Re: is it possible? vincent & sephy? oh crudd D.R YOUR 32!!! reasons right ur the devil lol.(sorry off topic) but to remain on i must ask when did lucrecia have her baby? so seph whould be around that age right? __________________

06-12-2007, 07:42 PM	#8
Darkreno Gunblade Expert Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: mostly hell Age: 48 Posts: 893	Re: is it possible? vincent & sephy? check it out hon, let me put some more focus 4 u. lucrecia was insiminated with seph. by hojo which gives fact that she's not really seph's mom. genetically it's genova which means hojo did it to a cup. dang i can't believe u got me doing this like this lol. and back on subject! he gave his and genova's samples to lucrecia. hojo was a sick and lonely dude. oh yeah marius we already kno i may b the devil lol.

06-12-2007, 07:54 PM	#9
Marius Highwind Captain Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: sometimes heaven Age: 45 Posts: 1,193	Re: is it possible? vincent & sephy? funny D.R ok all that aside there's just too many gaps in the whole thing. see like lets say seph is 32 thats supports my theory somewhat cuz it takes nine months to have a baby. so maybe earlier down when kno one was on to them lucrecia and vincent did their thing. u kno. yes we kno genovas genes were infused to seph but not really how. see so was it b4 or after he was born. lucrecia was a striking blonde herself right, not just genova. plus since lucrecia died shortly after having seph could only mean hojo may have set her up to die so that he can manipulate seph into thinking the worst. __________________

06-12-2007, 09:54 PM	#10
Darkreno Gunblade Expert Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: mostly hell Age: 48 Posts: 893	Re: is it possible? vincent & sephy? hmmm? perhaps maybe we were not meant to go there. i mean ok even if it were true i mean wouldn't vincent himself kno the truth. maybe the Turks kno the truth after all he was one of them. hmmm? see now u got me thinking. not fair marius. there's just simply no way vincent could be seph's dad.

06-13-2007, 12:58 AM	#11
clief101_ 1st class SOLDIER Join Date: May 2006 Location: Northern Crater (Australia) Age: 34 Posts: 1,900	Re: is it possible? vincent & sephy? hojo is sephy's dad...although nowhere does it state the ages of any of the characters invloved in the incident, you can kinda guess. when cloud was a young boy, sephy was already the number 1 SOLDIER, so by the time you cloud is 21 (game age), sephy would have to be the age cloud to barrets, and because vincent was in the shinra mansion for 32 yrs, that would make sephy 32 yrs old, because vincent was locked in ther when sephy was born (from what i gathered). also, vincent was lucrecias lover, but hojo and vincent clearly state that sephy is hojo's son, and i think hojo would've tested that to make sure he wasnt wrong __________________ Created by the one and only TherathxRikku

06-13-2007, 02:04 AM	#12
Zeromus_X Master Summoner Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Core of the Moon (Phoenix, AZ) Age: 95 Posts: 2,931	Re: is it possible? vincent & sephy? I've heard this rumor before, and all I can really say is that there just isn't any evidence that Sephiroth is Vincent's father.

06-13-2007, 03:57 AM	#13
Marius Highwind Captain Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: sometimes heaven Age: 45 Posts: 1,193	Re: is it possible? vincent & sephy? yep ur right on that one. but i was more or less hoping vincent was seph's dad somewhat u kno perhaps there was a lil more scandal on the story than we all originally thought thats all. __________________

06-13-2007, 06:03 AM	#14
Zeromus_X Master Summoner Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Core of the Moon (Phoenix, AZ) Age: 95 Posts: 2,931	Re: is it possible? vincent & sephy? Oh, and moved to Final Fantasy VII forum. o_O Please place threads in their proper sections in the future.

06-13-2007, 05:15 PM	#15
Marius Highwind Captain Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: sometimes heaven Age: 45 Posts: 1,193	Re: is it possible? vincent & sephy? ok sorry . n-e hoo isn't seph older than cloud and the others anyway? didn't cloud like admired seph from afar growing up? before he got mixed up with all that zack stuff? which means seph is older right.hmmm __________________

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