FF 8 is the worst
what do you think is the worsT?
what do you think is the worsT?
The worst FF
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*extreme gasp* I love number 8!!
I dunno....I think number 9 may have been the worst...It just didn't seem right....It was ok, but not as good as the others (though, I DID like Vivi...he was cool!! ^_^ )
I dunno....I think number 9 may have been the worst...It just didn't seem right....It was ok, but not as good as the others (though, I DID like Vivi...he was cool!! ^_^ )
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I think FF8 has got the worst story line, but I think FF4 has got the worst graphics.
All-together, I think FF8 is the worst, I mean, Whats the deal with a school, its rubbish.
All-together, I think FF8 is the worst, I mean, Whats the deal with a school, its rubbish.
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How can FFIV have the worst graphics? Wouldn't FFI have the worst graphics, if you were to say which one has the worst graphics?
Anyway, I don't really have a least favorite FF. I suppose FFII was kinda boring, so I'll go with that.
Anyway, I don't really have a least favorite FF. I suppose FFII was kinda boring, so I'll go with that.
hoo!ff8 gets a lot of hate votes!because it IS the worst!
Well the worst I've played was FF2. I haven't played FF8 so no comment.
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FF8 is the last to be thought of as the worst...what's your problem with it?
I don't know why you are basing your faith on one oppinion but you are getting the wrong idea...
As for me I have no least favourite FF...
I don't know why you are basing your faith on one oppinion but you are getting the wrong idea...
As for me I have no least favourite FF...
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Unfortunately, FFII and FFVIII seem to get a bad rap. Maybe because of the flexible customization systems they both have, but I can't see anything blaringly wrong with the story. (When people complain about story, it's usually whining.)
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I don't agree...many other FFs have been critisised a lot more...that's just unreasonnable to think that way...
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Hm...things i dislike about Final Fantasy VIII:
- The Junction System was complicated for in the beginning of the game.
- In general, one of the more difficult FF-games.
- A slow advancing story-line.
- To science-fiction-like.
Things i like about it:
- Deep characters.
- Nice graphics and movie-sequences.
- A great story.
- Laguna. ^^
- The Junction System was complicated for in the beginning of the game.
- In general, one of the more difficult FF-games.
- A slow advancing story-line.
- To science-fiction-like.
Things i like about it:
- Deep characters.
- Nice graphics and movie-sequences.
- A great story.
- Laguna. ^^
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I deleted my save file, that seems to help.Spiff said:
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I think V is the worse... it was boring... but the best are undoubtly 7 and 4!! (the ones with bad graphics )
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Heh...the ones with the worst graphics the best....^^well, i think FFVII is still the best of 'em all, but, per example, i think FFVI 's got waaayy better graphics than FFVII (FFVI = Good 2D graphics, FFVII = Bad 3D graphics ). But remember, it's not about how it looks, it's about the inside that counts (a perfect mixture of gameplay and storyline 
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). But remember, it's not about how it looks, it's about the inside that counts (a perfect mixture of gameplay and storyline ).
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Avathar said:Heh...the ones with the worst graphics the best....^^well, i think FFVII is still the best of 'em all, but, per example, i think FFVI 's got waaayy better graphics than FFVII (FFVI = Good 2D graphics, FFVII = Bad 3D graphics
yeah! You're right... I love games with a good storyline... a storyline that addicts us to the game...
Well I think FF7 is the best. Once you get used to the graphics or like me started playing it when 3D was new 
Its a great game. The storyline of FF7 and each characters storyline made it an epic. Sephiroth really set the bar high for evil characters. How many people do you think he killed just in the Shinra tower right at the very begining? And of course the music.
I judge FFs on Storylines, Characters, gameplay, music ,and then graphics.
FF2 was just bad in almost all of those.
Its a great game. The storyline of FF7 and each characters storyline made it an epic. Sephiroth really set the bar high for evil characters. How many people do you think he killed just in the Shinra tower right at the very begining? And of course the music. I judge FFs on Storylines, Characters, gameplay, music ,and then graphics.
FF2 was just bad in almost all of those.
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I recently found a review back, a review about FFVII i wrote when i just finished playing FFVII. (this is 2001, at the age of 15 ^^):
The game starts of nice and pretty. You can see a train ride into the station of a big city. Just before the train stops, a couple of people jump out, with one a those people a blonde lad in a purple outfit. The blondie seems to be Cloud. Cloud's a mercenary, at the moment hired by the terrorist organisation of AVALANCHE. Mission of the day: blow up Mako Reactor 6. Why? The Shinra company's getting Mako Energy from the planet through these machines. That Mako's starting to run out, and when there's nothing left, the planet wil meet certain doom.
The Mission is complete, Cloud wants his money, and get back with his life. But somehow you get tangled up with AVALANCHE and next thing you know, you're fighting for the existence of the whole planet.
It all sounds a bit cliché, but it's really not. The story about the dying world isn't that much predictable, and actually quite nice. But on the other hand, maybe that basic storyline isn't that good at all, the thing that makes it beautiful is the way it's been told.
You'ld gonna feel sympathy for the characters, like in a good book.
FFVII was one of the first, and probably one of the very first Rpg-games that was in full 3D. This would make everything show more realistic, plus: the camera doesn't have to stand at the same position anymore.
That it's different, doesn't mean it's better, once in a while that camera angle is disturbing, and you'ld long to the isometric perspective. What makes it even more fun is that you know that the game has nice 3D graphics. Hey, it's the year 1997, remember.
The environments are very well done, and filled with great athmosphere, alas you can't say the same about the sprites. They contain no detail, which the backgrounds do have. The music is quite dissapointing, though, it all sounds like a complicated ringtone or something.
FFVII is one of the few games i don't really bother the bleeping sounds, 'cause on the other hand, it's got something special. A few music themes from FFVII they might have put away. But the rest just sounds good, besides the bleeping, so respect for the creator.
The thing that really amazes are the cut-scenes. These are obviously not done with the in-game engine, 'cause they're to good to be true. Now i might be overreacting, but still, for those who haven't played it: watch the cut-scenes on the internet or something.
Too bad that there isn't a word spoken, as well in the game as in the clips. In-game all communication goes by textballoons, and in the cut-scenes everybody lost their tongue.
FFVII also introduced a brand new battlesystem. Rpgs in that time still had standard turnbased fights.
In this games, it's still about selection menus, but the whole principal has just been turned over: Active Time Battle System. It works as simple as it is good: Each character has its own meter that fills. When it's full, you can pick an action. You can adapt the speed of the filling by the options screen, to select the difficulty level. When it goes faster, it does mean less time for choices, but it does provide a smooth fight, which doesn't make it turnbased as it used to.
Also during the battle, you can adapt the speed of the meter by magic and items, which gives an extra touch of tactics. That way you can choose your characters, which to be faster than the other.
But that's not the only thing. Meet Materia. These are little stones containing Mako energy, and where you can get your magic from. In the weapons you can find throughout the game have Materia slots, openings where you can put your Materia in. The amount of slots depend on the weapon. This way, your magic has influence on your physical attacks and vice versa. So generally, the more Materia, the more magic points; the less materia, the more attack and health points.
You can also link Materia with eachother, for more possibilities. So each character has its benefits (magic or just full force), and your opponents have flaws and benefits. Are you going to upgrade your attack to the limit by just using the necessary Materia? Or just fill up your weapons so you can get very strong magic? This way there has been given more depth to the battles.
On other areas of the Rpg game, FFVII isn't that much innovating. Walking around, talking to people, solving quite easy puzzles, the usual stuff. Mostly this is a benefit in FFVII, you always know for certain what to do and where to go, and who to talk to, something that's missing sometimes in other Rpg's.
There are plenty of side-quests, so you won't get bored very quickly. There are also a good amount of mini-games, like chocobo-racing, motorcycle driving, and even smaller and more simple ones. With other words, FFVII has it all.
Conclusion:
The standars for a top game are enjoyable graphics, good music, a gameplay that's fascinating, and a very strong story-line. FFVII contains everything. There are alot of people saying it's the best Rpg ever, but i've got my remarks on those fan boys as well. As i said, the camera-angles aren't everything, the difference in graphics (characters versus background) is to big, and if you're not a fan of the midi-file background score, you could irritate yourselve at a lot of factors as these.
This way, you'ld encounter quite a lot of these minor flaws, due to the technical (im)posibilities of the time the game's been made.
But this Final Fantasy certainly has its brilliant elements, and is a Rpg no FF-fan should miss out on.
^__^
(this is 2001, at the age of 15 ^^):The game starts of nice and pretty. You can see a train ride into the station of a big city. Just before the train stops, a couple of people jump out, with one a those people a blonde lad in a purple outfit. The blondie seems to be Cloud. Cloud's a mercenary, at the moment hired by the terrorist organisation of AVALANCHE. Mission of the day: blow up Mako Reactor 6. Why? The Shinra company's getting Mako Energy from the planet through these machines. That Mako's starting to run out, and when there's nothing left, the planet wil meet certain doom.
The Mission is complete, Cloud wants his money, and get back with his life. But somehow you get tangled up with AVALANCHE and next thing you know, you're fighting for the existence of the whole planet.
It all sounds a bit cliché, but it's really not. The story about the dying world isn't that much predictable, and actually quite nice. But on the other hand, maybe that basic storyline isn't that good at all, the thing that makes it beautiful is the way it's been told.
You'ld gonna feel sympathy for the characters, like in a good book.
FFVII was one of the first, and probably one of the very first Rpg-games that was in full 3D. This would make everything show more realistic, plus: the camera doesn't have to stand at the same position anymore.
That it's different, doesn't mean it's better, once in a while that camera angle is disturbing, and you'ld long to the isometric perspective. What makes it even more fun is that you know that the game has nice 3D graphics. Hey, it's the year 1997, remember.
The environments are very well done, and filled with great athmosphere, alas you can't say the same about the sprites. They contain no detail, which the backgrounds do have. The music is quite dissapointing, though, it all sounds like a complicated ringtone or something.
FFVII is one of the few games i don't really bother the bleeping sounds, 'cause on the other hand, it's got something special. A few music themes from FFVII they might have put away. But the rest just sounds good, besides the bleeping, so respect for the creator.
The thing that really amazes are the cut-scenes. These are obviously not done with the in-game engine, 'cause they're to good to be true. Now i might be overreacting, but still, for those who haven't played it: watch the cut-scenes on the internet or something.
Too bad that there isn't a word spoken, as well in the game as in the clips. In-game all communication goes by textballoons, and in the cut-scenes everybody lost their tongue.
FFVII also introduced a brand new battlesystem. Rpgs in that time still had standard turnbased fights.
In this games, it's still about selection menus, but the whole principal has just been turned over: Active Time Battle System. It works as simple as it is good: Each character has its own meter that fills. When it's full, you can pick an action. You can adapt the speed of the filling by the options screen, to select the difficulty level. When it goes faster, it does mean less time for choices, but it does provide a smooth fight, which doesn't make it turnbased as it used to.
Also during the battle, you can adapt the speed of the meter by magic and items, which gives an extra touch of tactics. That way you can choose your characters, which to be faster than the other.
But that's not the only thing. Meet Materia. These are little stones containing Mako energy, and where you can get your magic from. In the weapons you can find throughout the game have Materia slots, openings where you can put your Materia in. The amount of slots depend on the weapon. This way, your magic has influence on your physical attacks and vice versa. So generally, the more Materia, the more magic points; the less materia, the more attack and health points.
You can also link Materia with eachother, for more possibilities. So each character has its benefits (magic or just full force), and your opponents have flaws and benefits. Are you going to upgrade your attack to the limit by just using the necessary Materia? Or just fill up your weapons so you can get very strong magic? This way there has been given more depth to the battles.
On other areas of the Rpg game, FFVII isn't that much innovating. Walking around, talking to people, solving quite easy puzzles, the usual stuff. Mostly this is a benefit in FFVII, you always know for certain what to do and where to go, and who to talk to, something that's missing sometimes in other Rpg's.
There are plenty of side-quests, so you won't get bored very quickly. There are also a good amount of mini-games, like chocobo-racing, motorcycle driving, and even smaller and more simple ones. With other words, FFVII has it all.
Conclusion:
The standars for a top game are enjoyable graphics, good music, a gameplay that's fascinating, and a very strong story-line. FFVII contains everything. There are alot of people saying it's the best Rpg ever, but i've got my remarks on those fan boys as well. As i said, the camera-angles aren't everything, the difference in graphics (characters versus background) is to big, and if you're not a fan of the midi-file background score, you could irritate yourselve at a lot of factors as these.
This way, you'ld encounter quite a lot of these minor flaws, due to the technical (im)posibilities of the time the game's been made.
But this Final Fantasy certainly has its brilliant elements, and is a Rpg no FF-fan should miss out on.
^__^
I find that funny because I have heard people say so many times that FF8 has shallow Dawson Creek-characters (Dawson Creek is some american highschool series or something if you don't know) that aren't really developed at all save for a few of them.Avathar said:
Anyway, I think FF2 is the worst FF game. But that's mostly because of the experience system (was a good idea, but poorly executed). I'm sure that if I played it through I'd like it a bit more, but probably not enough to make it move up from my worst FF-spot.
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Yeah, Dawson's Creek, i know what you're talking about. But just like you said, not all characters are that shallow.
